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zarnd
Posted on: Sat, 23 May 2015 - 20:26


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I received a letter today saying that no further evidence had come from the driver who reported the incident and that they were therefor closing the case with no further action being taken.

Many thanks for your help and putting my mind at ease during the wait.

Cheers
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zarnd
Posted on: Wed, 13 May 2015 - 07:13


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Called this mornings and they received my NIP on 6th May so at least I know I won't get s court summons for not sending the form back.

If I was going to hear anything, how quickly could it have happened?

Cheers
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zarnd
Posted on: Tue, 12 May 2015 - 07:58


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So if nothing is going to happen they won't let me know? Nice!

My car insurance is due on Sunday so do I tick the box to say that I have a police enquiry pending or say no?

My only concern is that they send me a court summons because they say they didn't receive the form back from me.

Cheers
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zarnd
Posted on: Tue, 12 May 2015 - 05:57


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Still haven't heard anything from anyone since sending the form back. How long should it normally take? Is it worth contacting them to make sure hey received my form back properly?

Thanks
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zarnd
Posted on: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 - 18:00


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Just a quick update on this. Had the form sent to me so that I could fill out details. Duly sent it back by recorded delivery on Monday so they would have received it on Tuesday. Have heard nothing. Came home today to find the form has been sent back as I didn't fill out the Yes/No on the Were You Driving the Vehicle section. I filled out my licence details in the correct section so have in as such said I was driving but missed the Yes/No part.

So, was given a pre-paid second class envelope to send it back to them which I will do tomorrow.

The wait and the worry continues...

Cheers
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zarnd
Posted on: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 - 14:05


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Thanks guys. Certainly makes me feel better.

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zarnd
Posted on: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 - 11:57


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I have no idea if the car that hit the one behind me stopped. The car behind me is blaming me for the car going into the back of him and saying that my driving was the cause and that I didn't stop (I didn't know there had been an incident behind me)

The edited post was an error and said the ssmd thing before but I changed a spelling mistake.

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zarnd
Posted on: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 - 09:52


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Brilliant. Thanks for the info.

One last. Question for the time being though; is it best to send the s172 back promptly or send it back towards the end of the time period or does it not make any difference?

Cheers
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zarnd
Posted on: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 - 08:55


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That my driving caused his accident and that I didn't stop
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zarnd
Posted on: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 - 08:29


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I called the collision department yesterday to find out so I do know what is being alleged against me.

Best to leave it blank even though I do know what is being alleged?

Thanks
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zarnd
Posted on: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 - 08:10


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He was on my right as I entered the roundabout with plenty of space.

I have written down what happened.

Form sent back today so have to wait for NIP to come directly to me.

Why would it not be s good idea to write a statement on the back of the form that I send back! I understand it will be my side of what happened and can be used as evidence etc...
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zarnd
Posted on: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 - 21:01


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I went round the roundabout and he came from the right and started flashing me when we were on the road to the tunnel. Didn't do anything intentional or anything that I thought was incorrect.
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zarnd
Posted on: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 - 20:29


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Form is being sent back tomorrow to say that I am the driver and I assume I will then receive an NIP addressed to me. Why would you not advise filling out what happened on the back of the sheet and sending it off?

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zarnd
Posted on: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 - 19:19


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Is it a good idea to write what happened on the back of the form that is sent?

Thanks
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zarnd
Posted on: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 - 18:53


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Sorry, should have made it clearer. He was flashing me before any braking took place. No flashing afterwards, just tailgating and arm waving. No flashing or arm waving after he stopped either. Absolutely nothing when he stopped so assumed he stopped as his passenger was shouting at him and he stopped due to that.
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zarnd
Posted on: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 - 16:58


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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - April 2015
Date of the NIP: - 4 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 8 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A 26 junction with A 27, Lewes Southerham Roundabout
Was the NIP addressed to you? - No
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - Company car
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Driver behind me flashed me and was driving close behind as well as waving his arms about. I waved back at him, braked twice to let him in front as I didn't want anything to happen. I could see in my rear view mirrors that the passenger seemed to be arguing with the driver. I saw the car behind pull over to the side and I carried on and cars behind pulled round and carried on as well. NIP states consideration being given for the alleged offence of Failing to Stop, Failing to Report an Accident, Careless or Inconsiderate Driving. I called telephone number to enquire and driver behind is stating that the car behind him went into the back of him due to my driving and that I left without stopping. I was completely unaware that anything had happened. No one tried to stop me, no one indicated that anything had occurred and I only remember it happening because of the passenger (who I thought was the drivers wife) seeming to be moaning at him for the situation between us both. I have no idea what car it was behind me, colour or whether or not there were more than two people in the car. I also didn't see a second car stop.

I am obviously very worried as I would never have not stopped at an accident if I knew about it and or been involved in one.


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No
Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes
Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 16:58:29 +0000
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zarnd
Posted on: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 - 18:31


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* bump *

anyone?

is it worth asking for the calibration certificate for that day?

what happens if i send them a letter by recorded delivery the day before my 28 days are up asking to see the calibration certificate? do i then have until the certificate comes back to make my next move?

please help me guys, starting to worry a bit now, and want to know the worst outcome of using the PACE letter, have many people been successful with using it!?!

cheers
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zarnd
Posted on: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 - 17:38


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ok, have had a look at the PACE letter, so what's the worst possible outcome from sending this letter?

is it worth me asking for the calibreation certificate after 28 days in the hope that they can't produce one!?!

cheers
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zarnd
Posted on: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 - 16:57


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ok, i am a numpty so i have redone the post for you guys now:

1. the offence was in england

2. Kent Police

3. date of the offence was 29/10/05

4. date of the nip is 03/11/05

5. received the nip on 04/11/05

6. NIP was addressed to me perfectly with no mistakes

7. was sent first class

8. i am the registered keeper of the vehicle

9. hold a full uk driving licence

10. have 3 points from an SP30 in 2003

11. travelling up Detling Hill on the A249 Detling. Overtook the car infront with one third of my rugby team plus kit in the car, and the NIP states i was doing 67mph in a 50mph limit. my speedo read 55/56mph. Just as i went past the car in front i went past a kent and medway speed partnership van with no windows open, so hoped the driver was not in the car. NIP states that i was caught doing a speed of 67mph contrary to S84 RTRA Sch 2 RTOA 88 & Local Order.

could you guys give me some advice please!?! what is my best plan of action, ask for the certificate of calibration!?!

i have 26 days left before i send my response of some kind

many thanks in advance, and sorry for not reading the READ THIS FIRST POST beforehand!

cheers

Alex
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zarnd
Posted on: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 - 01:13


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Hi,

newbie here, joined a few hours ago and require some advice and help if possible.

have had an NIP through the post stating that i was caught doing 67mph in a 50mph limit. now i know i was only doing 55, still speeding but i think their camera was wrong as my speedo probably isn't.

problem being that i already have an SP30 from two years ago and would like to, if possible, avoid having these points.

So, what is my best course of action, i spoke to them today and they said i can write to them and request the certificate of calibreation on the day, and or i can take them to court to plead my case. i also really don't want the points as i need my licence for my job, and don't know how happy my employers would be if i had more points on my licence due to driving expensive cars all day

any help and advice is much appreciated

thanks in advance

Alex
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