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No More Fines...Vote Michael Elston, Greater Manchester Mayoral Election
MichaelElston
post Sat, 23 Jan 2021 - 11:39
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Hello Everyone,

I'll be standing in this year's election for Greater Manchester Metro Mayor.

My policies include rescinding all fines issued against residents of Greater Manchester and prohibiting bailiffs from operating in Greater Manchester.

I'm also forming a coalition of independent candidates to stand in the Manchester Local Elections.
If you are interested in standing, please feel free to let me know;
www.michael-elston.com

If you would like to follow my progress, I'm now on:

Twitter: @M_T_Elston

Facebook: @ElstonMichael

All the best,
Michael Elston

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post Tue, 26 Jan 2021 - 11:15
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QUOTE (MichaelElston @ Tue, 26 Jan 2021 - 10:37) *
Of course, sometimes people are fined for doing things that we would prefer them not to do.
In these cases, the fines would be replaced with other measures that were more effective in preventing them from doing it again.
eg. If someone is guilty of fly tipping, they could be given work restoring a local park, which would be beneficial to the locality and which, instead of being a punishment, would feel like an achievement and would dissuade them from fly tipping in future.

But as mayor you have no power at all to do most of that, though you may get the ability to offer restitutative solutions in lieu of prosecution for those offences normally prosecuted by councils such as fly tipping but not including speeding, affray etc etc.

Ref Parking fines, they are a tiny minority, most financial penalties are either via Council Penalties (which a Mayor could do something about - but only by reducing enforcement and risking increasing problems as a result) or private parking charges (which a Mayor could do nothing about for existing premises although you could add a block for future planning consents), these are NOT fines (which can only be imposed by a court). It would help to at least use the right name for things so you differentiate the things you may be able to do from those you cannot.
You'd need to also explain how you'll fill the hole in the council budget caused by decreasing PCN payments.

Perhaps only seek to offer that which you can deliver as opposed to sweeping promises you would never be able to honour. Next you'll be claiming Mexico will pay for it!

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post Tue, 26 Jan 2021 - 11:45
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QUOTE (MichaelElston @ Tue, 26 Jan 2021 - 10:07) *
You seem to have a profound knowledge of the laws regarding these matters - perhaps you should stand for election?

I wonder why?

Don't think I could bear the commute to Manchester every day.


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post Tue, 26 Jan 2021 - 12:47
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You really should read this,

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/new...s-2017-12521146




you are not the first to promise the earth to the people of Manchester. people that do not want you or any other mayor anyway

you would have no power to do any of the things you want to do, it's as simple as that so stop telling lies to people

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MichaelElston
post Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 16:26
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In that case, close this website down and just pay your fines in future.
You're nothing but a bunch of cowards and hypocrites.
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666
post Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 16:33
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QUOTE (MichaelElston @ Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 16:26) *
In that case, close this website down and just pay your fines in future.
You're nothing but a bunch of cowards and hypocrites.

How to succeed in politics. Lesson 1 - insult the electorate.
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post Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 16:47
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QUOTE (666 @ Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 16:33) *
QUOTE (MichaelElston @ Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 16:26) *
In that case, close this website down and just pay your fines in future.
You're nothing but a bunch of cowards and hypocrites.

How to succeed in politics. Lesson 1 - insult the electorate.


lesson 2 shut down detractors


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DancingDad
post Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 16:56
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QUOTE (MichaelElston @ Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 16:26) *
In that case, close this website down and just pay your fines in future.
You're nothing but a bunch of cowards and hypocrites.

Possibly.
But unlike politicians who promise the earth, we do try and often succeed in delivering.

If you wish to address council parking fines, how about dealing with it at the source, something that an elected mayor would find within their powers.
Shake up the parking enforcement department so that penalties are applied within the laws, discretion is applied, consideration actually takes place and possibly even take a leaf out of Westminster's book in employing Traffic Marshals who are tasked with moving bad parkers on, guiding them, not just slapping a PCN on the screen
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post Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 16:57
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QUOTE (MichaelElston @ Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 16:26) *
In that case, close this website down and just pay your fines in future.
You're nothing but a bunch of cowards and hypocrites.

Maybe, but at least we aren’t liars, or politicians (or is there a big overlap from politicians?).

The irony is we almost certainly help more people that you.

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post Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 18:02
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QUOTE (MichaelElston @ Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 16:26) *
In that case, close this website down and just pay your fines in future.
You're nothing but a bunch of cowards and hypocrites.

Oh dear, we don't agree with you so you call us names and spit your dummy out. Let's hope you never get anywhere near any power. Bye.


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