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Posted by: Scottish parking Sat, 22 Jun 2019 - 08:22
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Hi,
The Scottish government seem determined to inflict KL on motorists here. Can you please sign the petition below, even if you don't live in Scotland, thank you.

https://www.change.org/p/the-scottish-government-stop-the-introduction-of-keeper-liability-for-private-parking-charges-in-scotland?recruiter=33778583&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petitionon&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition

Posted by: Lynnzer Sat, 22 Jun 2019 - 08:34
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Signed.
Reaon given is that the imposition of a contractual condition on a non contracting third party would be unlawful without the Protection of Freedoms Act.
It should remain that way

Posted by: Barkley Sat, 29 Jun 2019 - 11:42
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Murdo Fraser (a Tory MSP) is well known for this type of ‘fair play’. I responded to the consultation back in 2017 and heard nothing more. It didn’t make it to the 2018-9 programme of Bills, and I doubt it will make much headway in 2019-20 as there is much more important business to address, but we’ll know more come September.

Posted by: Redivi Sat, 29 Jun 2019 - 12:31
Post #1496086

Keeper Liability in England and Wales was compensation to the parking industry for the clamping ban

Scotland simply called the practice extortion

If it's introduced in Scotland, Mr Fraser shouldn't be surprised when somebody decides that the easiest way to dispose of an unwanted vehicle is to transfer the registration to him and, after waiting several weeks for the DVLA process, leave it in a suitable car park

Posted by: Lynnzer Sat, 29 Jun 2019 - 14:29
Post #1496096

QUOTE (Redivi @ Sat, 29 Jun 2019 - 13:31) *
Keeper Liability in England and Wales was compensation to the parking industry for the clamping ban

Scotland simply called the practice extortion

If it's introduced in Scotland, Mr Fraser shouldn't be surprised when somebody decides that the easiest way to dispose of an unwanted vehicle is to transfer the registration to him and, after waiting several weeks for the DVLA process, leave it in a suitable car park

There's another way too.
Wonder what his registration number is?

Posted by: southpaw82 Sat, 29 Jun 2019 - 20:41
Post #1496141

Please don’t encourage people to commit offences.

Posted by: Redivi Sun, 30 Jun 2019 - 07:55
Post #1496175

QUOTE (Lynnzer @ Sat, 29 Jun 2019 - 15:29) *
QUOTE (Redivi @ Sat, 29 Jun 2019 - 13:31) *
Keeper Liability in England and Wales was compensation to the parking industry for the clamping ban

Scotland simply called the practice extortion

If it's introduced in Scotland, Mr Fraser shouldn't be surprised when somebody decides that the easiest way to dispose of an unwanted vehicle is to transfer the registration to him and, after waiting several weeks for the DVLA process, leave it in a suitable car park

There's another way too.
Wonder what his registration number is?

Not your shopping trolley routine ?

Posted by: Dwain Wed, 24 Jul 2019 - 07:55
Post #1502302

QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Sat, 29 Jun 2019 - 21:41) *
Please don’t encourage people to commit offences.


I have to admit it did bring a smile to my face.

Posted by: anon45 Fri, 18 Oct 2019 - 20:59
Post #1523390

This has now passed.

The final version of the bill is at: https://www.parliament.scot/S5_Bills/Transport%20(Scotland)%20Bill/SPBill33BS052019.pdf

Part 4B introduces keeper liability.

Posted by: The Rookie Sat, 19 Oct 2019 - 07:54
Post #1523423

For ease of use, that starts on page 90 of that linked PDF.

Do we know when it becomes 'active'?

Posted by: oldstoat Sat, 19 Oct 2019 - 19:10
Post #1523556

this bit is scary

2) It is immaterial for the purposes of this Part whether or not the vehicle was permitted to be parked (or to remain parked) on the land

so no "the signs were forbidding defense"

Posted by: Albert Ross Sat, 19 Oct 2019 - 21:11
Post #1523573

If it is a works car park that is licensable, would that satisfy a statutory control.

Posted by: The Rookie Mon, 28 Oct 2019 - 10:35
Post #1525573

QUOTE (oldstoat @ Sat, 19 Oct 2019 - 19:10) *
this bit is scary

2) It is immaterial for the purposes of this Part whether or not the vehicle was permitted to be parked (or to remain parked) on the land

so no "the signs were forbidding defense"

If it only makes a keeper liable for what a driver owes though, it will still be relevant, it’s just for the purposes of ‘this part’.

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