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UKCPM ticket and appeal - advice please
DeterminedMilly
post Wed, 12 Sep 2018 - 15:32
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I had a ticket from UKCPM on the day my son moved into his new flat. He has a numbered parking bay, and the letting agent just told him that his rent included a parking space, no mention of a permit. I was parked in a disabled space (I'm genuinely disabled and have a blue badge) but his space was much nearer his flat so I moved my car, thus freeing up the disabled space for anyone else needing it. The signage was not close to my son's bay, and I didn't go over to look at it because I just assumed it was for people who didn't have a numbered space (they issue a certain number of 'guest' permits, not numbered).

Anyhow, long story short, I ignored the ticket then found out you shouldn't ignore, so I sent in an appeal. I've just had a letter today rejecting my appeal (surprise, surprise!) but although they've got my registration and name/address correct, they've got the location and issue date wrong, and the date of the letter is Feb 2017.

Firstly, do I have any grounds for ignoring this rejection seeing they've got some of the information wrong?

Secondly, what do I do next? IAS, POLSA?

Many thanks.

This post has been edited by DeterminedMilly: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 - 17:23
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Attached File  Parking_demand.pdf ( 752.2K ) Number of downloads: 7
Attached File  Parking_Appeal_15_August_2018_redacted.pdf ( 43.29K ) Number of downloads: 6
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post Wed, 12 Sep 2018 - 15:49
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Please post the ticket from UKPCM, your appeal and their rejection, suitably redacted of ALL personal identifying detail but leaving dates visible. What does your son's lease/tenancy agreement say about parking?


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DeterminedMilly
post Wed, 12 Sep 2018 - 16:49
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Thanks very much. I will get them scanned and posted as PDFs. The previous tenant to my son had a parking permit but she didn't return it to the letting agent until the day after my son moved in, but I will ask him to check his tenancy agreement.
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Eljayjay
post Wed, 12 Sep 2018 - 16:55
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Post the tenancy agreement in its entirety (after redacting any personal details).

You will probably need to upload it to another site and post a link here.

On the assumption that your son is the tenant of a buy-to-rent landlord, your son will also need his landlord's lease.

If the landlord will not provide a copy, your son can get his own copy from the Land Registry by completing form OC2 and paying a modest fee. Sadly, you cannot get the lease online from the Land Registry.
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DeterminedMilly
post Wed, 12 Sep 2018 - 17:25
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Original post edited to add copies of ticket, demand, appeal, and unsuccessful appeal notice.

It will take time to get a copy of son's tenancy agreement as he doesn't live near me and doesn't own a scanner so will have to take it to work, etc, etc.
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post Wed, 12 Sep 2018 - 17:49
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Love it!

Equalities Act.

Mitigation of loss.

Quiet enjoyment, if proven.

They wouldn't dare to push this as far as court.


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DeterminedMilly
post Fri, 14 Sep 2018 - 08:43
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Thank you very much cabbyman. I was hoping that they might not push a genuinely disabled person to court, especially when I vacated a disabled space for someone else, in favour of using my son's empty space.

Do I need to cover all bases by appealing to the IAS?

Thanks again, much appreciated.
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post Fri, 14 Sep 2018 - 09:50
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Do I need to cover all bases by appealing to the IAS?


The IAS guarantee their clients (ie UKCPM) an 85% appeal rejection rate, so this is not recommended.
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DeterminedMilly
post Sat, 15 Sep 2018 - 16:08
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Thanks very much Kommando. I will now just ignore and wait for them to take me to court....
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post Sat, 15 Sep 2018 - 18:13
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Whatever you do, do NOT ignore a letter of claim/letter before claim/letter before action - they are just different names for the same thing. You must respond to that by asking for lots of information and documents.
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