Speeding - exceeding speed 30mph on a restricted road |
Speeding - exceeding speed 30mph on a restricted road |
Sun, 23 Jan 2022 - 11:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 23 Oct 2018 Member No.: 100,557 |
Hi
I was in middlesborough doing drop offs and I was in and out of B1380. Some section of the B1380 used to be restricted to 40 and 30 but in august Middlesbrough council granted that the b1380 to be restricted to 30 which I found later after receiving the NIP. As I don’t reside in Middlesbrough I didnt see the any signposting for 30mp, I was at the end junction of Burchington Avenue joining B1380. I took a left to get onto B1380 and it’s a short strip before hitting the roundabout. Unbeknownst to me I didn’t realise that there was a mobile speed van and been caught doing 38mph. Is there any grounds to appeal ? Thank you so much for reading https://ibb.co/WggQM2J https://ibb.co/44mGD9T https://ibb.co/T8Kfnm7 https://ibb.co/vqc0TK6 |
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Sun, 23 Jan 2022 - 12:42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 161 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,444 |
There is an expectation that when a speed limit is reduced sufficient notice is given to warn motorists of this.
In your case, as 5 months had elapsed, I don’t see that you could ‘appeal’ this, but if you qualify, you should be offered a Speed Awareness course rather than a fixed penalty. |
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Sun, 23 Jan 2022 - 12:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Presumably you understand that if it’s a restricted road the only 30 signs required are at the start of the limit, there is no need for repeaters throughout the limit and in fact they aren’t permitted (but a 30 roundel can be added to a camera warning sign).
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Sun, 23 Jan 2022 - 12:56
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,572 Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Member No.: 36,528 |
No grounds at all, I'm afraid. Birchington Avenue is very obviously 30mph and there is no sign changing that as you come out on to the B1380, what's more that was exactly the same back in 2009 which is as far back as Google Streetview goes (LINK) so you have not been caught out by a change in speed limit last year.
You should get the offer of a course provided that you have not done one for an offence in the 3 years prior to this incident, otherwise it is £100 + 3 points. -------------------- |
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Sun, 23 Jan 2022 - 13:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 23 Oct 2018 Member No.: 100,557 |
Presumably you understand that if it’s a restricted road the only 30 signs required are at the start of the limit, there is no need for repeaters throughout the limit and in fact they aren’t permitted (but a 30 roundel can be added to a camera warning sign). I only became aware after the NIP, that parts of the B1380 used to be 40 before restricted speed was accepted in August. The B1380 is a long strip and its signed for 4mph at the entry of B1380, I only use the B1380 to get on and off nearby junctions, i must be getting off before seeing the 30 sign is posted. So there’s no way of me knowing that it’s 40 |
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Sun, 23 Jan 2022 - 13:59
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Sun, 23 Jan 2022 - 14:52
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Presumably you understand that if it’s a restricted road the only 30 signs required are at the start of the limit, there is no need for repeaters throughout the limit and in fact they aren’t permitted (but a 30 roundel can be added to a camera warning sign). I only became aware after the NIP, that parts of the B1380 used to be 40 before restricted speed was accepted in August. The B1380 is a long strip and its signed for 4mph at the entry of B1380, I only use the B1380 to get on and off nearby junctions, i must be getting off before seeing the 30 sign is posted. So there’s no way of me knowing that it’s 40 If you got off before the 30 signs then you were still in a 40 limit obviously. Go back and check the signage, but I think you’ll find you are mistaken. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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