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PCN was not visible from the driver side, I only noticed the PCN after driving for about 20 mins
Bashboush
post Mon, 10 Jun 2019 - 00:32
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I was in London on the 12th May 2019. I parked in Coverdale Road, W12, Shepherds Bush London after 9 pm, which is according to the signs is free.
To my surprise when I got back to my car around 11-ish, i noticed a PCN under the passenger side wiper. Opening it and reading the reason that I have parked without displaying an valid permit, pay and display ticket, and the time was 21:05.
So I started taking pictures and videos of the signs, the street name and the marked parking area in order to challenge the PCN.
I had a friend with me who upon reading the PCN pointed that there is a mistake in the PCN as it read Noel Street (G1) not Coverdale Road!!
I was puzzled!
But back tracking where I was before I arrived at Coverdale Road, I did park at Noel Street, and The PCN must have been issued then.
I had other passengers with me from Noel street to Coverdale Road, I was the driver and someone was sitting at the passenger side and two other people at the back. NONE of us noticed the PCN as we drove and it only was noticeable when we got back to the car at Coverdale Road.
The PCN was tucked under the passenger side wiper( It must've been so low that we did not notice it) and it was not fixed (the adhesive part still intact and not used).
I drive a Citroen Grand Picasso and the wind screen is large and cover a large area from the front, goes low too.
If I did use the wipers I am sure that the PCN would've blown with the wind while driving and I would never knew about it at all.
I took pics of the PCN and it shows that it is very low that you can not see it from inside.
I am planning to challenge it on the bases that the PCN could have been blown/lost without the driver and even the passengers noticing, and I am pretty sure where I parked at Noel Strret (where the PCN issued) it was a free parking after 9pm.
Please advice of the suitable wording to use in my representation.
I do not live in London so I couldn't go back to Noel street to check the signs again and take photos, as it was already late and I still have a long journey home (about 3 hours drive), and going back to Noel street means another 40-50 mins extra time.
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post Thu, 22 Aug 2019 - 10:52
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post Thu, 22 Aug 2019 - 11:31
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They reoffered the £65 discount and that window has gone unless it's still available online.
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post Thu, 22 Aug 2019 - 12:53
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At this point, assuming the discount is gone, your only sensible option is to appeal to the tribunal on the basis that the wording is duplicitous.


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Bashboush
post Thu, 22 Aug 2019 - 18:46
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Thu, 22 Aug 2019 - 13:53) *
At this point, assuming the discount is gone, your only sensible option is to appeal to the tribunal on the basis that the wording is duplicitous.

I agree.

Anyone can help with a template what to write to appeal ?
I’ll appreciate that.
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post Thu, 22 Aug 2019 - 18:49
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For now just register the appeal and write "detailed grounds to follow" in the reasons box, this will force the council to show its hand first. In due course the tribunal will give you a deadline to submit your full appeal and we'll probably just write it for you.


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