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Ticket leeds
post Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 06:21
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I have recently received a Notice to keeper (MNPR -Manual number plate verification) charge for £60..

I am an uber-eats worker and I went to pick up food from nandos and literally was there not more than 5 mins and now i have received this saying "Staff and customers of Nandos are not permitted to park in this car park"..

Should I pay or just ignore it?

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post Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:10
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Did you look at the date on the item you linked to? In 2012 regulations were introduced to allow them to transfer liability to the keeper of the vehicle and hence to court.

Post up a copy of the PCN received, suitably redacted but leave dates.

You're probably going to have to pay.
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post Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:12
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I have just uploaded the doc.
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post Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:17
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They've got POFA correct so I suggest you just pay the sum while it is reduced.

Before you do can you get a photo of the signs?
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post Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:18
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Right Thanks..

I wont be able to get the picture right now.. but I did go in the area again and it does say on the sign about not parking there for nandos
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post Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:41
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I definitely wouldn't rely on a 13 year old post from 2009 !!!

If uk cps complied with Pofa and the driver breached the sign , one could argue that uk cps may have a slam dunk case , although no parking contract was offered to the driver, known in parlance as forbidding signage

The keeper can be deemed as liable under Pofa from 2012, enacted 3 years after that 2009 post above

Uk cps may try their hand in civil court within 6 years which could cost the keeper around £220 if they lost in court

So as ostell mentioned, the £60 may be a cheaper option here

Stick to public roads for parking , and walk , in future !

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post Mon, 27 Jun 2022 - 05:07
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OP hasn’t posted the back of the notice but the warning on the front is not POFA compliant because it doesn’t include the mandatory statement required by POFA paragraph 9.2(f) that the PPC’s ability to transfer liability to the keeper is subject to it complying with all applicable POFA conditions. Unless there’s a second (POFA compliant) warning on the back, the PPC has no claim against the keeper and can only sue the driver.

If OP wants to fight this, they should edit the first post to remove any clue as to who might have been driving.

Unfortunately, the PPC is a member of the IPC whose tame “independent” appeal service is unlikely to accept a valid POFA based argument, so if OP wants to fight this, they might have to deal with a court claim in the fullness of time.
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post Mon, 27 Jun 2022 - 07:53
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I'd personally be wary of going to court if my strongest argument was that they've not got 9(2)(f) quite right, as convincing the court of that could be an uphill battle, especially if you get a judge that affords short shrift to 'technical' defences.


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