Received a UKCPS parking |
Received a UKCPS parking |
Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 06:21
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 26 Jun 2022 Member No.: 117,026 |
I have recently received a Notice to keeper (MNPR -Manual number plate verification) charge for £60..
I am an uber-eats worker and I went to pick up food from nandos and literally was there not more than 5 mins and now i have received this saying "Staff and customers of Nandos are not permitted to park in this car park".. Should I pay or just ignore it? When dealing with "tickets" from private parking companies (PPCs) Parking Ticket. UKCPS the simplest advice is to ignore them. For more information about this recommendation and private parking companies, and other actions you might wish to consider, click this link. This post has been edited by Ticket leeds: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:11 |
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Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 06:21
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Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:10
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
Did you look at the date on the item you linked to? In 2012 regulations were introduced to allow them to transfer liability to the keeper of the vehicle and hence to court.
Post up a copy of the PCN received, suitably redacted but leave dates. You're probably going to have to pay. |
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Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:12
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 26 Jun 2022 Member No.: 117,026 |
I have just uploaded the doc.
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Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:17
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
They've got POFA correct so I suggest you just pay the sum while it is reduced.
Before you do can you get a photo of the signs? |
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Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:18
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 26 Jun 2022 Member No.: 117,026 |
Right Thanks..
I wont be able to get the picture right now.. but I did go in the area again and it does say on the sign about not parking there for nandos |
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Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,327 Joined: 18 Aug 2016 From: Manchester Member No.: 86,486 |
I definitely wouldn't rely on a 13 year old post from 2009 !!!
If uk cps complied with Pofa and the driver breached the sign , one could argue that uk cps may have a slam dunk case , although no parking contract was offered to the driver, known in parlance as forbidding signage The keeper can be deemed as liable under Pofa from 2012, enacted 3 years after that 2009 post above Uk cps may try their hand in civil court within 6 years which could cost the keeper around £220 if they lost in court So as ostell mentioned, the £60 may be a cheaper option here Stick to public roads for parking , and walk , in future ! This post has been edited by Redx: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 - 08:42 |
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Mon, 27 Jun 2022 - 05:07
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Member Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 22 Jan 2022 Member No.: 115,469 |
OP hasn’t posted the back of the notice but the warning on the front is not POFA compliant because it doesn’t include the mandatory statement required by POFA paragraph 9.2(f) that the PPC’s ability to transfer liability to the keeper is subject to it complying with all applicable POFA conditions. Unless there’s a second (POFA compliant) warning on the back, the PPC has no claim against the keeper and can only sue the driver.
If OP wants to fight this, they should edit the first post to remove any clue as to who might have been driving. Unfortunately, the PPC is a member of the IPC whose tame “independent” appeal service is unlikely to accept a valid POFA based argument, so if OP wants to fight this, they might have to deal with a court claim in the fullness of time. |
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Mon, 27 Jun 2022 - 07:53
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,363 Joined: 9 Apr 2021 Member No.: 112,205 |
I'd personally be wary of going to court if my strongest argument was that they've not got 9(2)(f) quite right, as convincing the court of that could be an uphill battle, especially if you get a judge that affords short shrift to 'technical' defences.
-------------------- Useful Links (for private parking charges):
Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) Schedule 4 | British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice | International Parking Community (IPC) Code of Practice |
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