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66 in a 50 zone - Fixed Penalty or Court?
ernie800
post Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 17:06
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Hi Everyone!
I received a NIP for my very first speeding incident on saturday. It was in July and just arrived this week, though I've just moved house so my details might not have changed in time (hence I don't plan on challenging re time/14 days).

I was caught doing 66mph in a 50mph zone at just before midday on the day in question. I don't think there were any roadworks or specific aggravating factors related to the road at the time. The limit is always 50 on the road (it's not variable).
I feel terrible about this. I know it was wrong to speed.
I have had my license for 9 years and have no points (and no awareness courses or anything at all). It happened in Northumbria police area.

I've been researching on google and have found tables of speeds that would lead to an awareness course being offered (?up to 64mph in a 50 zone) and a summons (?76)
Though the gap between 64 and 76 seems unclear.

I've also seen tables of speeds being labelled as band A/B/C and related fines/points/bans. I think this is just if matters were decided at court.
I intend to own up to this and don't intend to challenge it, and would take whatever fine/points. I'm just really hoping it doesn't go to court.

What do you guys think? Would I receive a FPN notice or a SJP court summons?

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post Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 17:13
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Anything up to 75 should get a fixed Penalty, no reason for it to go to court.
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post Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 17:52
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Well done, you have researched it fully and realised that the bands you have read about apply only in court, many people come on here thinking it will apply when in fact they are in the fixed penalty area as you are.


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post Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 19:35
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QUOTE (ernie800 @ Mon, 23 Nov 2020 - 17:06) *
Hi Everyone!
I received a NIP for my very first speeding incident on saturday. It was in July and just arrived this week, though I've just moved house so my details might not have changed in time (hence I don't plan on challenging re time/14 days).

I was caught doing 66mph in a 50mph zone at just before midday on the day in question. I don't think there were any roadworks or specific aggravating factors related to the road at the time. The limit is always 50 on the road (it's not variable).
I feel terrible about this. I know it was wrong to speed.
I have had my license for 9 years and have no points (and no awareness courses or anything at all). It happened in Northumbria police area.

I've been researching on google and have found tables of speeds that would lead to an awareness course being offered (?up to 64mph in a 50 zone) and a summons (?76)
Though the gap between 64 and 76 seems unclear.

I've also seen tables of speeds being labelled as band A/B/C and related fines/points/bans. I think this is just if matters were decided at court.
I intend to own up to this and don't intend to challenge it, and would take whatever fine/points. I'm just really hoping it doesn't go to court.

What do you guys think? Would I receive a FPN notice or a SJP court summons?

Many Thanks smile.gif


I am currently going through something similar but mine was 61 in a 50, I posted on here at the weekend

I have sent my NIP back, not had a response yet, although I only sent back on Friday.

Posters on here also advised me that it would be £100 and 3 points even though I am still worried about it.

I understand what you are going through as I asked the same questions re banding etc...

Good luck with it.
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ernie800
post Tue, 24 Nov 2020 - 14:26
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Thanks everyone!
Still waiting for a response and still bricking it, but you're replies made me feel a little better.
Cheers
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post Tue, 24 Nov 2020 - 14:50
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The time to a response is circa 2-4 weeks, so try not to be on edge all that time.

It is 99.99% certain you'll be offered a fixed penalty, this is all by numbers, your case isn't special in any way.


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post Tue, 24 Nov 2020 - 14:57
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Tue, 24 Nov 2020 - 14:50) *
The time to a response is circa 2-4 weeks, so try not to be on edge all that time.

It is 99.99% certain you'll be offered a fixed penalty, this is all by numbers, your case isn't special in any way.



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ernie800
post Mon, 7 Dec 2020 - 17:11
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Hey everyone.

I've still not heard through the post about the above NIP I received. I realise it's only 2 and a bit weeks since I received it. I rang the number on the NIP form today and was told there was a big backlog due to covid. They said they'd received my response but my case hadn't been actioned yet. They said to ring back in two weeks more if I hadn't heard.

After reading other threads I'm worried that the longer this goes on, the more likely itll be they just refer it to court. I seem to be in the Fixed Penalty zone for the speed and road limit, but it's now 4.5 months since the incident.

Im massively stressed out about it, if it was referred to court it would be bad for my job, I'd have to declare it to work and to my regulator etc.

Do you think if they only get to my case by the end of december (5 months ish) they'll bypass the fixed penalty (to avoid the 6 months elapsing).

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post Mon, 7 Dec 2020 - 17:20
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If you need to declare a speeding case through court to your job and regulator they you should probably also be notifying the fixed penalty.
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ernie800
post Mon, 7 Dec 2020 - 17:28
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QUOTE (Slapdash @ Mon, 7 Dec 2020 - 17:20) *
If you need to declare a speeding case through court to your job and regulator they you should probably also be notifying the fixed penalty.


Yes I plan to do so where appropriate, though it obviously appears worse going to court. My regulator has an exception for traffic offences dealt with via fixed penalty notices.
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