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post Wed, 25 Jul 2018 - 18:34
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And another one

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/0...course-justice/

A Labour whip and ally of Jeremy Corbyn has been charged with perverting the course of justice after allegations that she tried to give away speeding points a month after her election.

Fiona Onasanya, the Labour MP for Peterborough, appeared at Westminster magistrates court two weeks ago alongside her brother, Festus.

The former solicitor kept news of her arrest and charge secret while serving as a Labour whip. She is due back in court next month.

Solicitors and MP's seem to have issues with speeding tickets, this one is both !!!
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Fri, 21 Dec 2018 - 19:50) *
QUOTE (Redivi @ Fri, 21 Dec 2018 - 13:07) *
The roar of Moses' Triumph is heard in the hills

That’ll be the rotten exhaust.......


On my old Triumph there was always sufficient oil mist from the engine to prevent any rotting of the exhaust. biggrin.gif


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post Fri, 28 Dec 2018 - 23:07
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She still doesn't get it...
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she said constituents should “rest assured” that she would remain their representative fighting injustice in the corridors of power.


Looks like a 12 month sentence is going to be required to get this one out of the corridors of power.


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post Sat, 29 Dec 2018 - 00:24
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QUOTE (Fredd @ Fri, 28 Dec 2018 - 23:07) *
She still doesn't get it...
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she said constituents should “rest assured” that she would remain their representative fighting injustice in the corridors of power.


Looks like a 12 month sentence is going to be required to get this one out of the corridors of power.

That is the rational approach for her to take: She going from a 77k salary to being an unemployed ex-MP ex-solicitor with a conviction for dishonesty, so any job that puts her in a position of trust is off-limits. That being the case, she might as well try and hang on (and keep taking home £4.4k a month after tax) for as long as she can.


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Fighting injustice...... oh the irony!

I mean those speed cameras are so unjust.....

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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sat, 29 Dec 2018 - 08:42) *
Fighting injustice...... oh the irony!

I mean those speed cameras are so unjust.....

But bizarrely I think a large proportion of the public would think they are.


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QUOTE (Fredd @ Fri, 28 Dec 2018 - 23:07) *
She still doesn't get it...
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she said constituents should “rest assured” that she would remain their representative fighting injustice in the corridors of power.


Looks like a 12 month sentence is going to be required to get this one out of the corridors of power.

The House of Commons retains the power to expel its members. In my opinion, and assuming she is indeed sentenced to fewer than 12 months in prison, it should use this power, rather than wasting time and money on a recall election.

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This comment was circulating a few years ago

Wonder what the up-to-date numbers are

Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 600 employees and has the following statistics?

29 have been accused of spouse abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad cheques
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3 have done time for assault
71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
4 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
84 have been arrested for drink driving in the last year

Which organization is this?
Answer : 635 members of the House of Commons that cranks out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us in line
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post Sat, 29 Dec 2018 - 22:34
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QUOTE (Redivi @ Sat, 29 Dec 2018 - 17:42) *
This comment was circulating a few years ago

Wonder what the up-to-date numbers are


A lot of utter twaddle has been spamming the internet for many years. At least the knob.gifs who posted this version took the time to Anglicise the spelling of cheques from the American versions (variously claiming to relate to the NBA, NFL and Congress)

Before propagating such twaddle, perhaps posters could spend a few seconds googling passages from the aforementioned twaddle to see if sites such as snopes.com have debunked them - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/congress-mend/


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Even if the numbers were true, what was the timescale, only two are ‘current’ accusations so if we add up all the MPs over the last 600 years that’s a pretty good record. Lack of critical thought applied.


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The Guardian occasionally has something worth reading, it seems: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/j...-fiona-onasanya

Evidently Onasanya's stated refusal to resign her seat angered the Politburo, and she's no longer a Labour MP or member of the party.
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Very interesting, however this puzzles me: "Onasanya would be able to stand as a candidate if a recall petition was successfully triggered", is it possible to be a parliamentary candidate for a by-election from prison? Would she have to attend the count by video-link?


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You're assuming that she'll get an immediate custodial sentence, of course, rather than a suspended one.


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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 15:40) *
is it possible to be a parliamentary candidate for a by-election from prison? Would she have to attend the count by video-link?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Sands

He did


http://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/member-of-parliament/

You still can...

Interestingly and moreover ironically the first line says “The rules about becoming an MP are less restrictive to those that apply to standing for election as a local councillor.”



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You're assuming that she'll get an immediate custodial sentence, of course, rather than a suspended one.



I would hope it wouldn’t be suspended...
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QUOTE (baggins1234 @ Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 16:47) *
Interestingly and moreover ironically the first line says “The rules about becoming an MP are less restrictive to those that apply to standing for election as a local councillor.”

Across the pond even being dead isn't a barrier to being elected. biggrin.gif


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You're assuming that she'll get an immediate custodial sentence, of course, rather than a suspended one.



I would hope it wouldn’t be suspended...

Well, quite. However I take nothing for granted when it comes to judges going gooey over a sob story.


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QUOTE (baggins1234 @ Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 16:47) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 15:40) *
is it possible to be a parliamentary candidate for a by-election from prison? Would she have to attend the count by video-link?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Sands

He did




Momentum, whilst just as unsavoury, are probably not quite as persuasive as Sinn Fein/PIRA were in the 1970s.
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QUOTE (Fredd @ Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 17:01) *
QUOTE (baggins1234 @ Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 16:47) *
QUOTE (Fredd @ Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 15:58) *
You're assuming that she'll get an immediate custodial sentence, of course, rather than a suspended one.



I would hope it wouldn’t be suspended...

Well, quite. However I take nothing for granted when it comes to judges going gooey over a sob story.

Wait until some bleeding heart social worker doing the pre-sentence report deals with her health issues.


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QUOTE (ViroBono @ Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 17:10) *
QUOTE (baggins1234 @ Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 16:47) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 15:40) *
is it possible to be a parliamentary candidate for a by-election from prison? Would she have to attend the count by video-link?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Sands

He did




Momentum, whilst just as unsavoury, are probably not quite as persuasive as Sinn Fein/PIRA were in the 1970s.


prior to Bobby Sands there was no disqualification. The Representation of the Peoples Act 1981, was introduced as a direct result of the terrorists election to the UK Parliament


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QUOTE (Fredd @ Sat, 5 Jan 2019 - 15:58) *
You're assuming that she'll get an immediate custodial sentence, of course, rather than a suspended one.

In that event I will be asking the Attorney General to consider referring the sentence to the Court of Appeal, and I don't imagine I'll be the only one.


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She seems to have upset the local Labour group as well, can't think why smile.gif
https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/po...apter-1-8758773

TBH it seems hardly surprising that she isn't resigning.
Firstly it does seem that she is living in her own fantasy land, secondly, following example of her leader who refused to resign despite losing a vote of confidence brought by his own MPs in 2016.

She probably believes that she will be saved by the party members as he was.
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