Ealing council - 85 Parked without clearly displaying a valid permit where required |
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Ealing council - 85 Parked without clearly displaying a valid permit where required |
 Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 10:46
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Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 14 Nov 2012 From: london Member No.: 58,303  |
Any help would be appreciated.
My wife got a PCN notice for parking in Ealing Council Multi-story car park. The PCN states this. "Parked without a valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid physical permit where required" The bay she parked in has no marking on the ground, and the car park has no mention of this as you enter the car park. As you park the side signs can be obscured by other vehicles. When she paid for the parking ticket using PayByMobile the APP does not mention make sure you are not in a "special bay". Also had a baby in the car so was preoccupied with that. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. Not at the appeal stage yet, just replying to the initial 14 day representation stage.
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Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 10:52
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
Post the council's pics and the PCN. Put pics on https://imgbb.com or such like.
Looks like those bays are for NHS staff (clinical commission group). |
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Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 11:08
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Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 14 Nov 2012 From: london Member No.: 58,303 |
QUOTE (stamfordman @ Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 11:52)  Post the council's pics and the PCN. Put pics on https://imgbb.com or such like. Looks like those bays are for NHS staff (clinical commission group). Thanks, find pcn here. https://ibb.co/3kWnh07 https://ibb.co/Hr4nbhw They are no pic from the council just the pcn stuck to the windscreen. This post has been edited by Jimmy2Times: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 11:39 |
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Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 11:27
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
Well the PCN is clear about being in a CCG bay.
Pics should be on Ealing's site https://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/201180/ticke...icket_details/1 |
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Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 11:35
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Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 14 Nov 2012 From: london Member No.: 58,303 |
QUOTE (stamfordman @ Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 12:27) Well the PCN is clear about being in a CCG bay. Pics should be on Ealing's site https://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/201180/ticke...icket_details/1 okay found the pics, the main on of interest is the 2 picture of my initial post. I'll let me missus know she'll have to pay it then  |
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Mon, 16 Sep 2019 - 18:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 14 Nov 2012 From: london Member No.: 58,303 |
QUOTE (stamfordman @ Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 12:27) Well the PCN is clear about being in a CCG bay. Pics should be on Ealing's site https://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/201180/ticke...icket_details/1 Excellent. I found my answer. The adjucator ruled the signage is misleading in a previous case on here. Im going for that one. Thanks folks. http://forums.pepipoo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t116363.html This post has been edited by Jimmy2Times: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 - 18:43 |
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Mon, 16 Sep 2019 - 19:18
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
Well done on finding that - I didn't recall it.
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Tue, 24 Sep 2019 - 19:19
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Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 14 Nov 2012 From: london Member No.: 58,303 |
QUOTE (stamfordman @ Mon, 16 Sep 2019 - 20:18) Well done on finding that - I didn't recall it. Made representation and the council replied with the following today. https://ibb.co/ZXWhDrz https://ibb.co/wccpVj5 Not a great result to totally expected, I take it the wording is all fine. |
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Tue, 24 Sep 2019 - 19:23
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Member Group: Closed Posts: 9,710 Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Member No.: 11,355 |
It has today's date --how did you get it--email?
Mick |
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Tue, 24 Sep 2019 - 19:24
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Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 14 Nov 2012 From: london Member No.: 58,303 |
QUOTE (Mad Mick V @ Tue, 24 Sep 2019 - 20:23) It has today's date --how did you get it--email? Mick Yes, it was emailed as an attachment. |
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Tue, 24 Sep 2019 - 19:43
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Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 14 Nov 2012 From: london Member No.: 58,303 |
QUOTE (Jimmy2Times @ Tue, 24 Sep 2019 - 20:24) QUOTE (Mad Mick V @ Tue, 24 Sep 2019 - 20:23) It has today's date --how did you get it--email? Mick Yes, it was emailed as an attachment. The following line "Paying to park by phone or online is not usable here; it is only usable in the bays where signs says that it can be used". Actually it doesn't state where you can pay and park but only where CCG and disable bays are, so you have to assume absence of a sign means its pay and display. |
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