Trumped up charge Driving without due care |
Trumped up charge Driving without due care |
Thu, 15 Nov 2018 - 08:54
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 26 Jul 2013 Member No.: 63,894 |
Hi guys.
A few weeks ago I was driving an extra long sprinter type van in London and tried to move left into the lane beside me, in my blind spot there was a black car which I couldn't see until I had started the manoeuvre but returned back into the right lane quickly. The driver of the black car then blasted his horn at me and gave me a hand signal. The car then followed me and the driver got out in traffic and came to the side of my van with a wallet in his hand saying that he was a police officer but wouldn't show me any id. He was in a 16 year old astra, was scruffy and unshaven with a foreign accent and if he was an officer he was off duty for sure. Well I drove away as I didn't believe him and now I have a nip for driving without due care and attention.. What do I do now? |
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Thu, 15 Nov 2018 - 08:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
What do I do now? Presumably right now you're only being asked to name the driver? In which case, you need to name yourself within 28 days of receipt otherwise a separate offence is committed. Not sure what the appearance of the other driver has to do with your innocence/guilt.. Driving into the path of another driver could easily be DWDCA. This post has been edited by peterguk: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 - 09:02 -------------------- |
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Thu, 15 Nov 2018 - 09:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Presumably it includes an S172 request to name the driver, if so name them. (not doing so is a more serious offence).
As you appear to admit driving without due care and attention I don't see it as trumped up, even if it is right at the bottom end of the scale, I'd be surprised if the Police didn't offer a course though. This post has been edited by The Rookie: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 - 09:04 -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Thu, 15 Nov 2018 - 10:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,300 Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Member No.: 47,602 |
The car then followed me and the driver got out in traffic and came to the side of my van with a wallet in his hand saying that he was a police officer but wouldn't show me any id. He was in a 16 year old astra, was scruffy and unshaven with a foreign accent and if he was an officer he was off duty for sure. Or on duty in a plain-clothes capacity. |
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Thu, 15 Nov 2018 - 16:05
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Write back naming yourself as the driver. Also write a separate letter of complaint, and return it in the same envelope, along the lines of
"I wish to make a formal complaint regarding this incident: one of your officers spoke to me at the scene and identified himself as a police officer, but he refused to produce any form of identification. It is my understanding that a police officer, whether off-duty or on plain-clothes duty, should as a matter of course present his credentials to a member of the public who he is dealing with and who reasonably asks to see his police ID." There's two possible outcomes: he really is a police officer, and nothing much will come of it (apart from maybe some vague assurance that the officer will be reminded of good practice in such circumstances), or he isn't a police officer, and he could be looking at an impersonating police charge. While the police are keen for dashcam reports and the like, they take a very, very dim view of people taking the law into their own hands, and an even dimmer view of people pretending to be police officers. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Thu, 15 Nov 2018 - 16:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 2,356 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 From: Landan Member No.: 20,731 |
Write back naming yourself as the driver. Also write a separate letter of complaint, and return it in the same envelope, along the lines of "I wish to make a formal complaint regarding this incident: one of your officers spoke to me at the scene and identified himself as a police officer, but he refused to produce any form of identification. It is my understanding that a police officer, whether off-duty or on plain-clothes duty, should as a matter of course present his credentials to a member of the public who he is dealing with and who reasonably asks to see his police ID." There's two possible outcomes: he really is a police officer, and nothing much will come of it (apart from maybe some vague assurance that the officer will be reminded of good practice in such circumstances), or he isn't a police officer, and he could be looking at an impersonating police charge. While the police are keen for dashcam reports and the like, they take a very, very dim view of people taking the law into their own hands, and an even dimmer view of people pretending to be police officers. Don't forget the official police "hand signal"... --Churchmouse |
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