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[NIP Wizard] First speeding NIP (M62 Westbound, Liverpool)
ukfms
post Sat, 10 Feb 2018 - 12:12
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - February 2018
Date of the NIP: - 4 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - M62 (WestBound), Liverpool, Merseyside, UK
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - They said I was recorded at 61, time into red light 0, for the alleged offence of "Exceed a 50mph speed limit in contravention of a local traffic order" automatic camera device at 11:57 at M62 (WestBound), Liverpool, Merseyside, UK


Based on the alleged time then I would have been almost/virtually off the motorway. I was driving up from Hampshire and was paying close attention to my journey time.

It's a bit confusing how they can say I was on the m62 but the speed limit was 50mph. I assume they got me just as the motorway was ending


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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post Sat, 10 Feb 2018 - 12:31
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QUOTE (ukfms @ Sat, 10 Feb 2018 - 12:12) *
It's a bit confusing how they can say I was on the m62 but the speed limit was 50mph.

Here is seems.

That excess will see a course offer or a fixed penalty (3 points £100).


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Sat, 10 Feb 2018 - 14:48
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There are a fair few motorways with permanent limits below 70.


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