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scuf
post Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 04:30
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Hi all,

I will need a bit of your advice if you don't mind.
I took a parking ticket.They said the permit wasn' t clearly displayed. I 've attached few photos.I have been parking in the same place for last 3 years. The permit was displayed as in their photo for the last few months.I own the flat(25%) and the "parking space belongs to the flat". Let me know if I can appeal or it is too late.

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post Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 09:45
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Can't read the sign but it is interestesting that an adjacent sign says parkig for residents only without any qualification.

Time to get your lease out and see what it says about parking and your rights to park So much better if the space is part of the flat. As the leaseholder, or partial, the lease takes precedence. The lease will not say that you have to display a permit, nor that you have to pay a third party stranger to the lease if you don't display.
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post Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 11:10
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In the lease says the following : Photo 5 and photo 6 attached.
I forgot to attached the NTK.photo 7
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in the same day I have received the ticket I used their webside ( attached) to contact/appeal them. I have said that I have been parking in the same bay for the last 3 years since I have bought the flat!
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post Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 11:13
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So long as you parked in you alloted bay then you met the terms of your lease. Displaying the permit is thus irrelevant. Yes you can appeal but you will still eventually win even if they reject the appeal!
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post Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 11:16
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how can I appeal? what is the procedure?
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post Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 11:32
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They will reject anything you say. They just want your cash.

However, they should not be ignored - they need to be told that your lease gives primacy over their signs. It sets the basis for your defence should they decide to take it further.

It's up to them whether they decide to issue a court claim.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 11:37
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QUOTE (scuf @ Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 11:16) *
how can I appeal? what is the procedure?

Your initial appeal is just a letter to them showing evidence that you are allowed to park there.
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post Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 11:38
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Ok, I will do that today!THanks.
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post Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 11:44
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Keep it formal and factual signing off yours faithfully. Do not show any annoyance or emotion as they prey on people who do because they scent that such people might cave in eventually.
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post Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 11:50
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I will attached the photos from the lease and the drawing showing the bay and I will add/write exaclty what you said above.
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post Thu, 27 Dec 2018 - 12:01
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Tell them that you will not be paying them ANYTHING and demand that the PCN is cancelled with immediate effect.
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post Sat, 29 Dec 2018 - 12:21
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Tell whoever hired them toFRO
Cease and desist to the management agent , they likely hired them
If you're not sure find out
Tell them you were never part of any scheme, never agreed to being part of a scheme, and they are to remove you from any scheme and instruct their agent to cease their harassment of you.
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scuf
post Sat, 29 Dec 2018 - 12:42
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Thanks nosferatu1001, but I have already sent them the appeal. The appeal is just an email on their website? Shall I send another one with what you've said.

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post Sat, 29 Dec 2018 - 13:04
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Who is "them"?
If it's the ppc then I'm not telling you to appeal the ppc
I'm telling you to go after the organ Grindrr, not the monkey.

Who hired the ppc? That's who you INSTRUCT to cease from interfering with your lease.
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post Tue, 15 Jan 2019 - 21:16
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I have received this letter following the appeal . What should I do next? thanks
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post Tue, 15 Jan 2019 - 23:04
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Eh? Img 10 says 'we didn't get your address from DVLA, you gave it to us' but Img 11 says 'we got your details from DVLA'

Are these 2 statements on the same letter? Both from the PPC?
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post Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 09:24
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WHat was the answer to post 14?
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post Wed, 16 Jan 2019 - 20:13
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Both statement are on the same letter.

I have called the association and they told me that they can't do nothing. They have employed this company to deal with the parking in these bays and if I have any issues to appeal.

I have sent a complaint( written form) on their website last weekend but nothing came back so far.

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post Thu, 17 Jan 2019 - 09:39
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Did you ask or did you instruct?
Its a cease and desst
Point out they are interfering with your lease, and this is something that has a monetary value attached, and can result in an injunction against them shoudl they continue to harass you and interfere with your quiet enjoyment
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post Thu, 17 Jan 2019 - 14:09
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When I'll get home I will post what I have sent. I haven't really said what you have written above.
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