Spare wheel, Is my spare wheel legal |
Spare wheel, Is my spare wheel legal |
Wed, 23 May 2018 - 08:23
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 22 May 2018 Member No.: 98,072 |
Hi, my 2010 Corsa D has a 14 inch steel wheels and Goodyear 185/70 R14 88T tyres.
My spare wheel in the boot is a 15 inch steel wheel with a Contie co 185/65 R15 88T tyre. Just wondering if this is ok as a spare, would be illegal to have 2 different wheels on the same axle. Thanks for any answers, Regards from Readman |
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Sat, 26 May 2018 - 16:50
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
These days you're lucky to get a spare wheel/tyre at all - both mine and the wife's came with a bottle of "get you home" sealant stuff, and that's it! Which effectively scraps the tyre even with a simple repairable puncture.... unless you can persuade the tyre fitter to clean the gunk out. |
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Tue, 29 May 2018 - 10:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: 18 Feb 2016 Member No.: 82,469 |
To add insult to injury with the foam kits, what is often not made clear is that the foam has a shelf life of just 3 or 4 years. I bought a 14 plate car earlier this year that came with a kit that was already out of date. No mention of that little detail from the main dealer during the briefing he gave when I collected the car.
Perhaps it would be fine past it's use-by date, but it's not something I would want to risk putting to the test on the side of the road so I just picked up an unused OEM space saver from ebay instead. |
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Tue, 29 May 2018 - 11:01
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,263 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
To add insult to injury with the foam kits, what is often not made clear is that the foam has a shelf life of just 3 or 4 years. I bought a 14 plate car earlier this year that came with a kit that was already out of date. No mention of that little detail from the main dealer during the briefing he gave when I collected the car. I use the same stuff in my mountain bikes, its just fine even when very old, like most food is fine after its use by date! -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Tue, 29 May 2018 - 13:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: 18 Feb 2016 Member No.: 82,469 |
To add insult to injury with the foam kits, what is often not made clear is that the foam has a shelf life of just 3 or 4 years. I bought a 14 plate car earlier this year that came with a kit that was already out of date. No mention of that little detail from the main dealer during the briefing he gave when I collected the car. I use the same stuff in my mountain bikes, its just fine even when very old, like most food is fine after its use by date! I figured that might be the case, but it'd be just my luck to have a can that had already set at 2am, a hundred miles from home, in the rain! Also, I don't buy cheap tires (any more) so I was already wanting a real spare rather than the gunk that would write off a potentially repairable puncture. The date thing was just another nail in the existing kit's coffin. |
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Tue, 29 May 2018 - 16:03
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,770 Joined: 17 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,602 |
The usefulness of a spare tyre is overrated. In 40+ years of motoring I have run out of fuel more often than I have had a puncture yet I don't feel the need to carry a jerry can of petrol in the car.
I currently own two cars, a Range Rover & a Smart. If either had a flat I would just call out the RAC to sort it. The Smart has no spare tyre nor even space for one & there is no way that I would want to change a wheel on the Range Rover except with a heavy duty trolley jack. -------------------- British Parking Association Ltd Code of Practice(Appendix C contains Schedule 4 of POFA 2012 ) & can be found here http://www.britishparking.co.uk/Code-of-Pr...ance-monitoring
DfT Guidance on Section 56 and Schedule 4 of POFA 2012 https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/syste...ing-charges.pdf Damning OFT advice on levels of parking charges that was ignored by the BPA Ltd Reference Request Number: IAT/FOIA/135010 – 12 October 2012 |
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Tue, 29 May 2018 - 19:36
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Webmaster Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,205 Joined: 30 Mar 2003 From: Wokingham, UK Member No.: 2 |
The usefulness of a spare tyre is overrated. In 40+ years of motoring I have run out of fuel more often than I have had a puncture yet I don't feel the need to carry a jerry can of petrol in the car. I'd say you've been very fortunate - in a similar time I've had to fit a spare wheel quite a few times. In that time I've only run out of fuel once (on a motorcycle), presumably since cars always come with a "running out of fuel" gauge; if they also had an "about to have a puncture" gauge then maybe I'd feel differently about the spare wheel. -------------------- Regards,
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Tue, 29 May 2018 - 22:12
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,318 Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Member No.: 47,602 |
The usefulness of a spare tyre is overrated. In 40+ years of motoring I have run out of fuel more often than I have had a puncture yet I don't feel the need to carry a jerry can of petrol in the car. I'd say you've been very fortunate - in a similar time I've had to fit a spare wheel quite a few times. In that time I've only run out of fuel once (on a motorcycle), presumably since cars always come with a "running out of fuel" gauge; if they also had an "about to have a puncture" gauge then maybe I'd feel differently about the spare wheel. My experience over 50 years - more punctures than I can remember. Currently 18 months since the last one, probably a record. Two "out of fuels" in that time, both due to stupidity. |
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Wed, 30 May 2018 - 08:07
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,770 Joined: 17 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,602 |
The usefulness of a spare tyre is overrated. In 40+ years of motoring I have run out of fuel more often than I have had a puncture yet I don't feel the need to carry a jerry can of petrol in the car. I'd say you've been very fortunate - in a similar time I've had to fit a spare wheel quite a few times. In that time I've only run out of fuel once (on a motorcycle), presumably since cars always come with a "running out of fuel" gauge; if they also had an "about to have a puncture" gauge then maybe I'd feel differently about the spare wheel. My experience over 50 years - more punctures than I can remember. Currently 18 months since the last one, probably a record. Two "out of fuels" in that time, both due to stupidity. I won't deny my stupidity or the fact that most of the occasions that I ran out of fuel were back in the days when I couldn't afford to fill up the car very often but still I can count the number of punctures I have had on one hand. This post has been edited by nigelbb: Wed, 30 May 2018 - 08:08 -------------------- British Parking Association Ltd Code of Practice(Appendix C contains Schedule 4 of POFA 2012 ) & can be found here http://www.britishparking.co.uk/Code-of-Pr...ance-monitoring
DfT Guidance on Section 56 and Schedule 4 of POFA 2012 https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/syste...ing-charges.pdf Damning OFT advice on levels of parking charges that was ignored by the BPA Ltd Reference Request Number: IAT/FOIA/135010 – 12 October 2012 |
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Wed, 30 May 2018 - 08:46
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In 25 years of driving, I've needed the spare tyre twice. Never run out of petrol.
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Wed, 30 May 2018 - 08:56
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
In last year, three punctures on two cars.
Two repairable, one not (nail through shoulder) All close enough to tyre centre to re-inflate and drive there to let them sort them. But if in dead of night and miles from home, having a spare gives a warm and fuzzy feeling. As does a lickle electric air pump in the boot. Probably been 5 years previously without a puncture.... life happens. |
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Wed, 30 May 2018 - 10:10
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,318 Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Member No.: 47,602 |
The usefulness of a spare tyre is overrated. In 40+ years of motoring I have run out of fuel more often than I have had a puncture yet I don't feel the need to carry a jerry can of petrol in the car. I'd say you've been very fortunate - in a similar time I've had to fit a spare wheel quite a few times. In that time I've only run out of fuel once (on a motorcycle), presumably since cars always come with a "running out of fuel" gauge; if they also had an "about to have a puncture" gauge then maybe I'd feel differently about the spare wheel. My experience over 50 years - more punctures than I can remember. Currently 18 months since the last one, probably a record. Two "out of fuels" in that time, both due to stupidity. I won't deny my stupidity or the fact that most of the occasions that I ran out of fuel were back in the days when I couldn't afford to fill up the car very often but still I can count the number of punctures I have had on one hand. My stupidity was compounded by the fact that I had a company car and a fuel card. On one occasion I passed several filling stations, running on fumes to get to an Esso one for the Tiger tokens ... |
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Thu, 31 May 2018 - 09:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,860 Joined: 12 May 2012 Member No.: 54,871 |
The usefulness of a spare tyre is overrated. In 40+ years of motoring I have run out of fuel more often than I have had a puncture yet I don't feel the need to carry a jerry can of petrol in the car. I'd say you've been very fortunate - in a similar time I've had to fit a spare wheel quite a few times. In that time I've only run out of fuel once (on a motorcycle), presumably since cars always come with a "running out of fuel" gauge; if they also had an "about to have a puncture" gauge then maybe I'd feel differently about the spare wheel. With the now mandatory fitting of Tyre Pressure Monitors, I suppose they have (sort of!) |
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Thu, 31 May 2018 - 11:44
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Webmaster Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,205 Joined: 30 Mar 2003 From: Wokingham, UK Member No.: 2 |
With the now mandatory fitting of Tyre Pressure Monitors, I suppose they have (sort of!) Not that dissimilar to the audible "cough! cough!" noise the mandatory fuel exhaustion warning makes, then. -------------------- Regards,
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Thu, 31 May 2018 - 16:34
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
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Thu, 31 May 2018 - 16:49
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Member Group: Members Posts: 477 Joined: 1 Nov 2013 From: NG1 Member No.: 66,409 |
.........With the now mandatory fitting of Tyre Pressure Monitors, I suppose they have (sort of!) Mandatory ??? I know many newer cars come with the gimmick but mandatory. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/...EX%3A32012R0523 "Article 3 1. With effect from 1 November 2012, national authorities shall refuse to grant EC type-approval of new types of vehicles of category M1 which are not fitted with a tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS) complying with the relevant requirements laid down in UNECE Regulation No 64, 02 series of amendments, corrigendum 1 (9). 2. With effect from 1 November 2014, national authorities shall prohibit the registration, sale and entry into service of vehicles of category M1 which are not fitted with a TPMS complying with the relevant requirements laid down in UNECE Regulation No 64, 02 series of amendments, corrigendum 1." |
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Fri, 1 Jun 2018 - 14:24
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Member Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 18 Mar 2015 Member No.: 76,324 |
Might explain why my VW Polo (sold pre legislation coming in) has it, the Germans were obviously already preparing to make sure all their cars complied!
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Fri, 1 Jun 2018 - 14:51
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,178 Joined: 1 Jan 2013 From: Glasgow Member No.: 59,097 |
Might explain why my VW Polo (sold pre legislation coming in) has it, the Germans were obviously already preparing to make sure all their cars complied! Might have been of more benefit to force manfrs to install wheels/tyres that match the ones already on the cars . |
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