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Camden Laystall St PCN
Dia
post Sat, 26 Jan 2019 - 08:54
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Hello guys,
Just got a PCN from Camden regarding Laystall st, got back to Clerkenwell Rd where entering to Laystall st to the left and just saw that sign but believe me when you drive up 100% you can't see the Signage as back of the sign is facing me. There is another sign which facing me and made me confused as its look like you can't drive further in Clerkenwell Rd, so complex.
Find this one in the web was belongs to someone else had same problem:
" I am currently fighting a PCN via PATAS for Laystall Street.
If you refer to tsrgd 2002 and TMS 2008- the Pedsetrian Zone itself or the signage at entry does NOT conform to legislation and is therfore unenforcable.
A PEDISTRIAN ZONE must ( by legislation ) be improved for pedestrians - Laystall street has not been improved - it is a normal road.
The Signage plate that says 'AND PUBLIC HOLIDAYS' is not an approved version."

Any advice I really appreciate.

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Dia
post Wed, 20 Feb 2019 - 20:37
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Tue, 19 Feb 2019 - 23:12) *
Of course you have a chance.
Cannot guarantee a win but they rely on their signage (which some adjudicators find wanting) and ignore that the driver was confused by them and panicked.
Your money, your choice, council was always going to reject.
An adjudicator in a personal hearing has to decide two things.
First is if you are telling the truth about panicking
second is whether signage could confuse.

I cannot advise on the first, that depends on you, second seems credible to me.
And is IMo more likely for an adjudicator to agree on then the more common appeal on the signs not being fit for purpose.

So if adjudicator reject my appeal, do I need to pay original price or max charge?

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post Wed, 20 Feb 2019 - 21:06
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QUOTE (Dia @ Wed, 20 Feb 2019 - 20:37) *
….So if adjudicator reject my appeal, do I need to pay original price or max charge?


One and the same thing, the original penalty was £130 and this is what you will pay if you lose at adjudication.
The discount amount will not be available.


It is basically a double or nothing gamble with where you are at the moment.
I think odds are on your side but it is not 100% by any means.
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