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Rjt123
post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 06:13
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Hello,

I received this Charge certificate but I never received the notice to owner. I definitely appealed after I received the PCN. I got a reply advising I wait for the charge certificate to challenge it but I didn't receive it.

Can you advise the best way/ thing to say to request it gets sent out again?

Let me know if you need any more detail and thank you for your help in advance. I hope you can see the charge certificate above.
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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 09:39
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So you challenged the PCN, received a rejection, and decided to wait for the NTO, which didn't come? They say they issued one on 9/1/2018.

You can now wait for the order for debt recovery and make a witness statement that you didn't get the NTO. See the process:

http://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/unde...rcement-process
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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 10:01
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Please post up PCN and their response to your challenge.
Was the PCN served on the car or to you, or did you get it by post ?
FYI, you cannot appeal a CC, only pay it. If you want to reset to NTO, wait for the Order for Recovery then submit a Witness Statement. Is the address on the CC correct in all detail ? We have seen cases where the OP says he got a posted document, but not an earlier one, but it had a slightly wrong address and the postman, (being a regular), put it in the right address, or a neighbour got it and passed it on. Address used is on your V5, their only source for it.

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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 10:10
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QUOTE (Rjt123 @ Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 06:13) *
I definitely appealed after I received the PCN. I got a reply advising I wait for the charge certificate to challenge it but I didn't receive it.

Which means your 'appeal' was too late and you do now have a Charge Cert.
Or is that a typo?


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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 10:13
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 10:10) *
QUOTE (Rjt123 @ Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 06:13) *
I definitely appealed after I received the PCN. I got a reply advising I wait for the charge certificate to challenge it but I didn't receive it.

Which means your 'appeal' was too late and you do now have a Charge Cert.
Or is that a typo?



I read it as a typo - we shall see.
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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 12:27
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Yes. I appealed the PCN and it was rejected. I will check the address. There was change of ownership of the vehicle but new keeper at the same address. This may have something to do with it.
The PCN was stuck to my windscreen but I definitely received the rejection letter from Barnet.
I have an image of the PCN. What's the quickest way to get it on here? Is there a simple app that will give my images URLs? I currently have to be at my home pc to get an image up here.
.. CC address correct.
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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 12:35
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Whatever you use don't use Photobucket. Almost any other pic site will so - Imgur, Flickr are good.
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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 12:37
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The NTO was the first document that must be sent to the owner (presumed to be the RK) so sent to the address kept by DVLA

was that you ?

If not was it another person at the same address, if so did they receive a NTO

Is the CC in your name or that of the other person


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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 13:30
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Neither myself or the previous owner received the NTO. I've recently opened, checked and shredded all post to my address over the last year!
CC in my name.
Photobucket is what I've been trying to use but found it hard work! Why's that? Is it not compatible?
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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 13:40
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QUOTE (Rjt123 @ Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 13:30) *
Photobucket is what I've been trying to use but found it hard work! Why's that? Is it not compatible?

Does it matter; just don't.


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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 14:44
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QUOTE (Rjt123 @ Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 13:30) *
Neither myself or the previous owner received the NTO. I've recently opened, checked and shredded all post to my address over the last year!
CC in my name.
Photobucket is what I've been trying to use but found it hard work! Why's that? Is it not compatible?


Try this:
Do not attach docs/photos, but use this method:
Some are having problems with Tinypic at he moment.. try Flickr, where the BBcodes are concealed behind the curly arrow (click on it) for sharing.

Photo or scan. see http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=36858&st=0
for how to do it. I use Tinypic for stage 2 with no problems. Thera are other sites, such as Flickr, which enable you to paste the BBCodes into your post here.
STAGE 1 takes care of resizing. If you use Tinypic for Stage 2, on the left each image in Tinypic is a list of links. Highlight and copy the entire link 'for forums' from the list for each image - beginning with IMG and ending /IMG (include all the square brackets [ ] ), and paste each link into your post. Each copied and pasted link will embed a thumbnail link in your post.

Using the attachment method is not advised as it means quickly running out of attachment space.

Redact/obscure name, address, PCN number and reg.mark.
LEAVE IN all dates/times; precise location, Contravention code and description.
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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 23:14
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I can't quite remember if I posted a reply or submitted a reply online. I basically explained how I was picking up my elderly relative who was not very mobile. She needed more time to get her out of the house for a hospital appointment.

The order for debt recovery sounds scary. Is there nothing I can do in the meantime, apart from wait?
If I do as I'm told by you guys, will I definitely get it reverted back to the NTO stage?


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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 23:16
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Can you answer my question in post #4 please.

Also show the rejection.
Use the [IMG] tags and pics will show directly.

Ah, you found it.


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post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 23:22
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Rejection letter to follow shortly. Apologies :newbie:
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post Wed, 21 Feb 2018 - 23:31
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post Thu, 22 Feb 2018 - 00:12
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The action required to reset the matter is simple and we'll explain when we are sure
of the facts.
Just waiting for the rest of that rejection and an answer to my question -
QUOTE (Neil B @ Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 10:10) *
QUOTE (Rjt123 @ Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 06:13) *
I definitely appealed after I received the PCN. I got a reply advising I wait for the charge certificate to challenge it but I didn't receive it.

is that a typo?



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post Thu, 22 Feb 2018 - 00:18
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Sorry, yes. Typo. I meant NTO is what I didn't receive
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QUOTE (Rjt123 @ Thu, 22 Feb 2018 - 00:18) *
Sorry, yes. Typo. I meant NTO is what I didn't receive

Ok good.

Rest of the rejection, when you can -- but you have at least a week anyway, biggrin.gif


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post Thu, 22 Feb 2018 - 11:02
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Thanks Neil B. Sorry, busy working single mum!
Just tried to upload again using tinypic but got this error message: "This IP address has been banned for violating
our Terms of Use"😞😞😞😞 Dunno what I've done wrong! Worked fine with the images above. I try and find another way.
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post Thu, 22 Feb 2018 - 11:30
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Don't use Tinypic - try Imgur or Flickr.
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