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The Rookie
post Wed, 13 Jun 2018 - 09:48
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Maybe rather than keep starting posts we can put them into one as a warning to others

Two speeding events, not his van honest guvnor, jailed for 6 months.


And from the archives under the status of legendary
Andy Roo (ex of this parish)

Chris Huhne and the ex Mrs Huhne

And a future volunteer it seems

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DancingDad
post Mon, 11 Feb 2019 - 17:01
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This one is of the "let's mount a jammer where the police can see it" school of thought.
3 months and £1,500 as a result.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-66...device-BMW.html
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post Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 16:29
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Mon, 11 Feb 2019 - 17:01) *
This one is of the "let's mount a jammer where the police can see it" school of thought.
3 months and £1,500 as a result.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-66...device-BMW.html

No indication in the Daily Fail (as per normal) as to what he did that had a tendency to pervert, and which was or was intended to pervert, the course of public justice, which had followed the occurence of an event from which it could reasonably have been expected that an investigation would follow.

Nor whether he was found guilty or (more likely) he had admitted the charges.

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post Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 19:02
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QUOTE (Churchmouse @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 16:29) *
No indication in the Daily Fail (as per normal) as to what he did that had a tendency to pervert, and which was or was intended to pervert, the course of public justice, which had followed the occurence of an event from which it could reasonably have been expected that an investigation would follow.

Nor whether he was found guilty or (more likely) he had admitted the charges.

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He pleaded guilty. And since he was caught by virtue of causing a speed camera to generate an error code, it wouldn't have been that hard to make the case that it was PCoJ.


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QUOTE (Fredd @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 19:02) *
And since he was caught by virtue of causing a speed camera to generate an error code, it wouldn't have been that hard to make the case that it was PCoJ.


Are there any other offences out there that result on a charge of PCoJ if someone chooses to not pay a [private] third party company for the privilege of sitting in a room with other willing occupants - even if what they were doing at the time was not an offence?

QUOTE (DancingDad @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 20:18) *
Police regard active interference with speed cameras as interfering with an investigation, ie interfering with the course of justice.... courts seem to agree.


What counts as an investigation? Is it an investigation into the conduct of that driver, or the conduct of everyone - and at what time? If someone didn't know that they were under investigation of a sexual offence and they washed their clothes, is that PCoJ?

Plus, if video footage is being kept, there's nothing to say that the video itself cannot be used to derive speed.

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