Hackney School Streets Restrictions - Rushmore Road PCN, Hackney School Streets Restrictions - Rushmore Road PCN |
Hackney School Streets Restrictions - Rushmore Road PCN, Hackney School Streets Restrictions - Rushmore Road PCN |
Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 18:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 6 Oct 2016 Member No.: 87,597 |
Hi there,
So Hackney Council have placed a new restriction on the roads surrounding Millfields School. All the roads in this area are dead ends and Rushmore Road, which runs along side the school, is the only exit route out of the area. A flyer delivered in February offering all information, prior to the enforcement, gave the impression that all vehicles assigned to residents in Zone N would automatically be registered for exemption. On reading it again - there seems to be a contradiction. A PCN has been delivered. Please see the attached, as well as the flyer initially received by all in the area. All comments and thoughts welcome. The local council has been called, however, they will not cancel it over the phone, so a strong initial case is necessary. Side note: the image on the right is as unclear as it appears - only the reg number is visible. Here's the PCN and flyer: Thanks in advance. UPDATE: This is a 6 page doc - but I'm having difficulty saving the pdf with all pages to a JPEG (it's just saving the first page) - any advise appreciated. tinypic is not playing ball anymore it would seem.... or for now, so I can't add them as separate pages. This post has been edited by RootieTootie: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 19:12 |
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Mon, 22 Oct 2018 - 11:49
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
Will be interesting to see Hackney's reply as they will no doubt reject. If it explains what they meant to say then I think you've got them.
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Mon, 22 Oct 2018 - 16:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 6 Oct 2016 Member No.: 87,597 |
Thank you for all your comments and advice.
Will do so - I'm guessing sending a digital copy of the flyer is acceptable in this case? I wouldn't want them to 'lose' the original flyer. |
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Mon, 22 Oct 2018 - 20:05
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Thank you for all your comments and advice. Will do so - I'm guessing sending a digital copy of the flyer is acceptable in this case? I wouldn't want them to 'lose' the original flyer. Yes a digital copy is fine, keep hold of the original. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Mon, 22 Oct 2018 - 22:40
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 6 Oct 2016 Member No.: 87,597 |
Bizarre turn of events... on driving passed the street in question this evening - all the signs seem to have been removed to the school street zone oddly.
This post has been edited by RootieTootie: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 - 00:42 |
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Tue, 23 Oct 2018 - 07:37
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
It's half term.
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Tue, 23 Oct 2018 - 10:23
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 6 Oct 2016 Member No.: 87,597 |
I just found out.
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Tue, 27 Nov 2018 - 16:25
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 6 Oct 2016 Member No.: 87,597 |
Hi all,
A response was finally received today (dated Friday) rejecting the representation (spelling the surname wrong in the opening of the letter). Of course, they totally ignored the reasons regarding the misleading flyer, instead accusing the driver of ignoring the road signs as the reason for the rejection. Please do advise on the next step to take. Many thanks in advance. This post has been edited by RootieTootie: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 - 16:43 |
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Tue, 27 Nov 2018 - 16:50
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Member Group: Closed Posts: 9,710 Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Member No.: 11,355 |
What time was the contravention and is the video available?
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Tue, 27 Nov 2018 - 17:58
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 6 Oct 2016 Member No.: 87,597 |
Time: 15.24
Yes there is a video. |
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Tue, 27 Nov 2018 - 18:09
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 6 Oct 2016 Member No.: 87,597 |
I do wonder if it's worth requesting through freedom of information, how many motorists in the area have been fined since this was implemented.
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Tue, 27 Nov 2018 - 19:07
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
They have made no comment on the leaflet they provided, that could be seen as a procedural impropriety.
-------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Wed, 28 Nov 2018 - 11:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 6 Oct 2016 Member No.: 87,597 |
What would you recommend the next step is in this case? Go to POPLA?
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Wed, 28 Nov 2018 - 11:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
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Wed, 28 Nov 2018 - 15:08
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
What would you recommend the next step is in this case? Go to POPLA? Have a read of this: https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/appe...ocess-explained -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Fri, 30 Nov 2018 - 17:14
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 6 Oct 2016 Member No.: 87,597 |
This is so frustrating. I wondered if it's worth the energy trying to fight this. It's disgusting that they think it's acceptable to completely ignore the main piece of evidence sent.
I am wondering if I should find out how many motorists in the area have been stung by this and go to the local Hackney paper with this evidence (the flyer) to expose this administrative mess up. Although, I'm aware in the short term that's not a solution for this case. |
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Fri, 30 Nov 2018 - 19:52
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
This is so frustrating. I wondered if it's worth the energy trying to fight this. It's disgusting that they think it's acceptable to completely ignore the main piece of evidence sent. I am wondering if I should find out how many motorists in the area have been stung by this and go to the local Hackney paper with this evidence (the flyer) to expose this administrative mess up. Although, I'm aware in the short term that's not a solution for this case. Ignoring your representations can win on its own due to failure to consider, even if the underlying representation is devoid of merit. I would fight on. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 15:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 6 Oct 2016 Member No.: 87,597 |
This is so frustrating. I wondered if it's worth the energy trying to fight this. It's disgusting that they think it's acceptable to completely ignore the main piece of evidence sent. I am wondering if I should find out how many motorists in the area have been stung by this and go to the local Hackney paper with this evidence (the flyer) to expose this administrative mess up. Although, I'm aware in the short term that's not a solution for this case. Ignoring your representations can win on its own due to failure to consider, even if the underlying representation is devoid of merit. I would fight on. Okay. I will fight on. Should any specific terminology be used in the appeal? One of the main issues with this case is that no other official communication was sent to highlight the changes in this area. Just this flyer which looks like an advert for a school fĂȘte. Would getting hold of how many may have been fined on this street since January help the case at the tribunal, if it arrives in time? Thanks again. Also, is it preferable to do a personal hearing over a postal hearing? "One of the first questions on the Notice of Appeal form asks you whether you want a postal decision or a personal hearing." |
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Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 15:55
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 6 Oct 2016 Member No.: 87,597 |
This is my freedom of information request. Just would like an outside eye to check I haven't missed anything obvious in my request:
Please could you provide me with the number of Penalty Charge Notices issued by Hackney Parking Services (Hackney Council) on the following roads from 1st February 2018, to date: Elmscroft Road Rushmore Road (between Hilsea Street and Mayola Road). Please could you inform me, how many of those PCN issued, were to residents in the Hackney Zone N area. |
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Tue, 4 Dec 2018 - 20:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,308 Joined: 9 May 2014 Member No.: 70,515 |
QUOTE Also, is it preferable to do a personal hearing over a postal hearing? "One of the first questions on the Notice of Appeal form asks you whether you want a postal decision or a personal hearing." Opt for personal if at all possible - you can always change later. Important thing is to register the appeal. You can do thios now, and write in the appropriate box something like Full submission (to follow). Keep hard copies of anything submitted online. |
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Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 16:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Post a draft of your appeal here before submitting it to the tribunal.
-------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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