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daniejam
post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 11:47
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Hi, my girlfriend received a parking ticket on Saturday while her card was parked on the pavement.

The road outside my house has double yellow lines, so we have always parked on the road for over a year.

Many cars on the same road also do the same, however the double yellow lines dont go all the way up the road.

There was plenty of room for people to get past the car with a pram etc so i am not sure what the issue was.

Is this normal practice? Is it worth me disputing?

Thanks in advance for any help. I have attached pictures of the 3 vehicles, hers is the mini.
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DancingDad
post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 12:05
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Let's see the PCN and location please.
It's not looking good from those photos.
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stamfordman
post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 12:07
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Understatement from DD - bang to rights bar a slim hope of legitimate expectation.

The road looks quite wide - what on earth is wrong with parking on the carriageway away from the yellow lines?
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daniejam
post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 12:12
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 12:05) *
Let's see the PCN and location please.
It's not looking good from those photos.


Its in the north west (code 01.)

Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.

QUOTE (stamfordman @ Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 12:07) *
Understatement from DD - bang to rights bar a slim hope of legitimate expectation.

The road looks quite wide - what on earth is wrong with parking on the carriageway away from the yellow lines?


The pavement is always full of cars, to park somewhere else that isnt normally full would be a 2-3 minute walk.

Always parked there since we moved in over a year ago and never had any complaint. sad.gif
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StuartBu
post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 12:13
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"The road outside my house has double yellow lines, so we have always parked on the road for over a year."

I don't get that bit ...did you mean "on the pavement"

As for the DY's ...the restriction aiui stretches from the centre of the carriageway(road) to the property line ( across the pavement to the wall)

Surprising that you haven't had any tickets previously .

Can you post up scans/pics of the ticket ( excluding the usual stuff) and others will give their opinions. Use an external host not the Forum attachment facility .
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daniejam
post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 12:49
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Here is the ticket

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John U.K.
post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 12:52
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Always parked there since we moved in over a year ago and never had any complaint.


You may have grounds for 'legitimate expectation'. What does historic GSVs show? How long have neighbours parked there? Any ever had a PCN?

As others say, please post up all sides of PCN and a GSV link to location.
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Do not attach docs/photos, but use this method:
Some are having problems with Tinypic at he moment.. try Flickr, where the BBcodes are concealed behind the curly arrow (click on it) for sharing.

Photo or scan. see http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=36858&st=0
for how to do it. I use Tinypic for stage 2 with no problems. Thera are other sites, such as Flickr, which enable you to paste the BBCodes into your post here.
STAGE 1 takes care of resizing. If you use Tinypic for Stage 2, on the left each image in Tinypic is a list of links. Highlight and copy the entire link 'for forums' from the list for each image - beginning with IMG and ending /IMG (include all the square brackets [ ] ), and paste each link into your post. Each copied and pasted link will embed a thumbnail link in your post.

Using the attachment method is not advised as it means quickly running out of attachment space.

Redact/obscure name, address, PCN number and reg.mark.
LEAVE IN all dates/times; precise location, Contravention code and description.
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post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 12:53
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"The road outside my house has double yellow lines, so we have always parked on the road for over a year."

The DYLs bar parking 24x7 and this includes footways and verges up to the property line, which on your 2nd pic of the mini is the low wall. No separate signs are needed. So on the face of it, your girlfriend is bang-to-rights, but if you've regularly parked at that spot with the DYLs then an appeal based on "legitimate expectation" could win at adjudication, but the council will not give way so you'd have to take it all the way and forego the discount option.

Only other possible avenue is the PCN itself. Sometimes these contain fatal errors of content that make them void, but again, you'd have to go to adjudication to test the matter. So as others have said, post up the PCN for further advice.

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stamfordman
post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 13:27
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You blanked the location for some reason. Where is this?
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DastardlyDick
post Tue, 20 Feb 2018 - 11:25
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You're bang to rights on the contravention, for the reasons stated above.
Unless there are fatal flaws in the wording on the back of the PCN - please post it up - your options are limited to:-
1. Contest on "Legitimate Expectation" as stated above, with the full £70 at risk. This will only work once.
2. Pay at the discount and don't park there again.


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