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fixed penalty but wrong reg?, wrong reg
teddy123
post Fri, 1 Jun 2018 - 17:08
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i was driving on the motor way and got off for the exit... coming down from 60mph to "47mph" on a 50>40 to 30mph road, the police on the bike with his little hand held gun taking notes pulled me over and saying that i was 17mph over the limit
i didnt have my licence on me just my bank card.. which he took my details from and my address..
once i received the metropolitan police letter about "£100 find plus 3 point for speeding" i noticed that they got my reg wrong
the second letter on the paper they put X when on my reg its a W

this is first time for me and i dont know how to go about this.. can someone help guide me

thanks in advance
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post Fri, 1 Jun 2018 - 17:16
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If you are tempted to ignore this, it might be an expensive lesson. If you don't take up the offer of a fixed penalty they will take it to court. Any error on the court documents can be corrected and if you have no defence, you will find yourself looking at possibly more points, a income based fine and costs/surcharge.

Point out their error and allow them to fix it. The fixed penalty is the cheapest option you are likely to get.
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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 00:59
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No need to ‘fix’ just take the fixed penalty. If you take it to court an error on the registration number is of no consequence it’s you accused of speeding not the car!


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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 09:22
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 01:59) *
No need to ‘fix’ just take the fixed penalty. If you take it to court an error on the registration number is of no consequence it’s you accused of speeding not the car!

The record on the system does need correcting - for data integrity if nothing else - so it is best to advise them of the error prior to payment / licence submission.
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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 10:17
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thanks for the information guys, i think it might be best i just pay the fine and get it out the way crybaby2.gif
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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 10:18
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I would still argue its an irrelevance, perhaps explain how its relevant (beyond meaningless 'data integrity')?


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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 10:28
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QUOTE (squaredeal @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 10:22) *
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 01:59) *
No need to ‘fix’ just take the fixed penalty. If you take it to court an error on the registration number is of no consequence it’s you accused of speeding not the car!

The record on the system does need correcting - for data integrity if nothing else - so it is best to advise them of the error prior to payment / licence submission.

What bad things can happen if it isn't corrected? The penalty is recorded against the driving licence rather than against the car so I don't see how "data integrity" is of any importance.


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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 10:29
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It is drivers, not vehicles, who have driving records (of which the Fixed Penalty will form part). I doubt that the integrity of that data will be compromised if this error remains uncorrected.
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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 12:54
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Nothing to do with the DVLA record, but the PentiP record will refer to a driver and link him to a incorrect /non-existent vehicle.
If data exists, it should be correct. Isn't that what is being rammed down our throats with GDPR?
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QUOTE (squaredeal @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 13:54) *
Nothing to do with the DVLA record, but the PentiP record will refer to a driver and link him to a incorrect /non-existent vehicle.
If data exists, it should be correct. Isn't that what is being rammed down our throats with GDPR?

That's a problem for the police, not the OP.


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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 13:25
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QUOTE (squaredeal @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 13:54) *
Nothing to do with the DVLA record, but the PentiP record will refer to a driver and link him to a incorrect /non-existent vehicle.
If data exists, it should be correct. Isn't that what is being rammed down our throats with GDPR?

Why should the data on PentiP be correct? More importantly, why would the OP care?


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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 14:16
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QUOTE (squaredeal @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 13:54) *
Nothing to do with the DVLA record, but the PentiP record will refer to a driver and link him to a incorrect /non-existent vehicle.
If data exists, it should be correct. Isn't that what is being rammed down our throats with GDPR?


Never mind GDPR, the DPAs have always said that personal data must only be held for as long as necessary. Why would the OP's personal data be kept on PentiP after the case has been processed?
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QUOTE (666 @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 15:16) *
QUOTE (squaredeal @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 13:54) *
Nothing to do with the DVLA record, but the PentiP record will refer to a driver and link him to a incorrect /non-existent vehicle.
If data exists, it should be correct. Isn't that what is being rammed down our throats with GDPR?


Never mind GDPR, the DPAs have always said that personal data must only be held for as long as necessary. Why would the OP's personal data be kept on PentiP after the case has been processed?

It's kept for 3 1/2 years then anonymised. That length of time is how long the points are relevant for.
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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 16:32
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QUOTE (squaredeal @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 16:52) *
QUOTE (666 @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 15:16) *
QUOTE (squaredeal @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 13:54) *
Nothing to do with the DVLA record, but the PentiP record will refer to a driver and link him to a incorrect /non-existent vehicle.
If data exists, it should be correct. Isn't that what is being rammed down our throats with GDPR?


Never mind GDPR, the DPAs have always said that personal data must only be held for as long as necessary. Why would the OP's personal data be kept on PentiP after the case has been processed?

It's kept for 3 1/2 years then anonymised. That length of time is how long the points are relevant for.


But the points are already recorded against the licence holder by the DVLA. Why is it necessary for PentiP to duplicate the data?
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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 16:37
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QUOTE (666 @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 17:32) *
QUOTE (squaredeal @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 16:52) *
QUOTE (666 @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 15:16) *
QUOTE (squaredeal @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 13:54) *
Nothing to do with the DVLA record, but the PentiP record will refer to a driver and link him to a incorrect /non-existent vehicle.
If data exists, it should be correct. Isn't that what is being rammed down our throats with GDPR?


Never mind GDPR, the DPAs have always said that personal data must only be held for as long as necessary. Why would the OP's personal data be kept on PentiP after the case has been processed?

It's kept for 3 1/2 years then anonymised. That length of time is how long the points are relevant for.


But the points are already recorded against the licence holder by the DVLA. Why is it necessary for PentiP to duplicate the data?



Because PentiP is a specific application for the management of penalty points.


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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 16:57
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Just to reiterate: Who gives a flying hoot if the data on PentiP is wrong????


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post Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 17:10
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QUOTE (peterguk @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 17:37) *
QUOTE (666 @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 17:32) *
QUOTE (squaredeal @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 16:52) *
QUOTE (666 @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 15:16) *
QUOTE (squaredeal @ Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 13:54) *
Nothing to do with the DVLA record, but the PentiP record will refer to a driver and link him to a incorrect /non-existent vehicle.
If data exists, it should be correct. Isn't that what is being rammed down our throats with GDPR?


Never mind GDPR, the DPAs have always said that personal data must only be held for as long as necessary. Why would the OP's personal data be kept on PentiP after the case has been processed?

It's kept for 3 1/2 years then anonymised. That length of time is how long the points are relevant for.


But the points are already recorded against the licence holder by the DVLA. Why is it necessary for PentiP to duplicate the data?



Because PentiP is a specific application for the management of penalty points.


And having managed them, why is it necessary to keep a record, when that data is already held by DVLA?
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