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[NIP Wizard] 2 charges in relation to speeding/Sect 172 notice
Deewho
post Wed, 18 May 2022 - 20:16
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - November 2021
Date of the NIP: - 2 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 7 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A60 (nr Forest Hill) Mansfield, Notts.
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 12
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Clocked by operator using a LTI20:20 Ultralite 1000 laser speed measuring device and teletraffic concept video system doing 37 mph in a 30 limit area. Confirmed I was keeper and was driving,but did not return their section 172 notice as I was advised not to. They say they sent 2 further notices, though I can't be 100% sure as I was advised to ignore reminders too, but don't remember getting them. Now have been charged for the speeding offence and also failing to provide details of driver - though their statement confirms I did provide these details and refers to it in their statement.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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post Sun, 22 May 2022 - 05:52
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Or he could make a really complete Horlicks if he gets the same ‘expert’ advice and manage to be convicted of both, 9 points, 6 month totting ban and a whole raft of fines and costs, probably totally circa £1500.


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