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Chutzpah
post Fri, 1 Jul 2022 - 10:29
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Presumption is that this is bang to rights but just in case.

https://ibb.co/CPzZZdb
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Bus lane experimental TRO is here: https://www.bathnes.gov.uk/sites/default/fi...reet_2120_0.pdf

I presume they're allowed to use a no motor vehicles sign and issue a PCN for being in a bus lane? (As opposed to issuing the PCN for driving past a no motor vehicles sign)

Edit: adding location https://goo.gl/maps/H39H1ibAgcXaQcU16

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post Mon, 8 Aug 2022 - 13:57
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What's the date of the alleged contravention? If it's 31 May 2022 or later then the council have a hard deadline of 56 days to respond.


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Chutzpah
post Mon, 8 Aug 2022 - 14:41
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Contravention was 3rd June. I believe the following are correct:

Contravention - 3rd June
Date of issue and posting - 29th June
Date of service - 1st July
Discount until - 22nd July
28 days from date of service - 29th July
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post Tue, 9 Aug 2022 - 20:06
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How did you make representations, online or by post?

If online, then:



You put every date in your timeline above except the one that counts, i.e. the date that you made representations which is 6 July.

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Chutzpah
post Wed, 10 Aug 2022 - 12:33
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It was online.

I make 56 days from 30th Sept as the 5th August?
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post Wed, 10 Aug 2022 - 15:00
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QUOTE (Chutzpah @ Wed, 10 Aug 2022 - 13:33) *
It was online.

I make 56 days from 30th Sept as the 5th August?

See above, they have to serve a response by 31 August.


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post Wed, 10 Aug 2022 - 16:09
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I can't see the docs says they do not exist, but if the contravention was 3rd June then service of the PCN must be by the 30th of June day 28 so the PCN is served out of time


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post Wed, 10 Aug 2022 - 16:24
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Wed, 10 Aug 2022 - 17:09) *
I can't see the docs says they do not exist, but if the contravention was 3rd June then service of the PCN must be by the 30th of June day 28 so the PCN is served out of time

+1, post the PCN so that we can confirm. Either use https://imgur.com/ (which doesn't have that stupid auto-delete thing) or google drive, dropbox or similar.


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Chutzpah
post Wed, 31 Aug 2022 - 09:24
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All,

Apologies that I didn't reply sooner as I've been out of the country.

I think there may have been some inadvertent confusion above, my response has already gone back explaining the initial PCN was issued out of time. The subsequent question was how long they had to respond to me.

I arrived home just after midnight with no letter received from the council whilst I was away. However when I enter the notice number on their online portal to pay it I see the message "There is currently nothing outstanding on this notice", so I'll continue to see if I get an update in the post (strike day today)

(nb I wasn't trying to pay it, just seeing if the online portal said anything)
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post Wed, 31 Aug 2022 - 23:30
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If you made representations online on 6th July then the 56 days are up and you've won. It might be that the council have realised this and have cancelled the penalty.


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Chutzpah
post Thu, 1 Sep 2022 - 08:27
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Letter arrived today (dated 24th August).

"Thank you for your correspondence regarding the above Penalty Charge Notice (PCN).

This has been considered and I can confirm that on this occasion the PCN has been cancelled.

Please accept my sincere apologies for the error made and any inconvenience this has caused"

Thanks to all on here that have allowed me to make this my wedding anniversary gift to my wife this weekend laugh.gif

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post Thu, 1 Sep 2022 - 12:09
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Great news, thanks for confirming the outcome.


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