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[NIP Wizard] No speed limit sign, dual carriageway, bulit-up area
tcxbalage
post Mon, 3 Sep 2012 - 22:52
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - July 2012
Date of the NIP: - 26 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 28 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - Hampton Road West by Canterbury Rd E/B TW13 (9839)
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 3
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I was driving my motorcycle on the above mentioned road, it is a dual carriageway, there is no speed camera warning sign and no speed limit signs. My speed was 38mph (it is a bulit-up area, so the limit is 30, stupidly I believed it is 40).
The only sign i found ther is a blue "Dual carriageway ahead".
Is there any chance to avoid the fines and the penalty points?
http://goo.gl/maps/sc8Lf


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - No
Was there a valid reason for the NIP's late arrival? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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tcxbalage
post Thu, 6 Sep 2012 - 13:03
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 6 Sep 2012 - 13:48) *
Canterbury is in Kent.......all the clue I has was Canterbury road so guessed and added a ? to indiacte that fact!

It's by county (which you forget to put in the wizard) so if it's in the same county then no you can't do another course, if it's in a different county then you MAY be able to.

Neither Watford nor Feltham are county's, so at no point have you told us a county at all, so you'll have to figure that yourself or tell us!


OK, it's clear smile.gif
I haven't found that information on the NIP, that's why I left that field empty.
So Bushey is in Hertfordshire and Feltham belongs to Greater London.
(according to Wikipedia)
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post Thu, 6 Sep 2012 - 13:48
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Feltham may or may not be Met police, I'm sure somewhere on the NIP it says what Police force it is!


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tcxbalage
post Thu, 6 Sep 2012 - 14:04
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 6 Sep 2012 - 14:48) *
Feltham may or may not be Met police, I'm sure somewhere on the NIP it says what Police force it is!


I found it, it says Metropolitan Police. (it was on the letterhead)
I remember the previous NIP was served by the Hertfordshire Police.
How can I found out if they were the part of the national scheme that time?

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post Thu, 6 Sep 2012 - 15:59
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You'll find out they were if you either don't get offered a course or get an application rejected......any enquiry will only flag you up and is best not done!


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Rookies 1-0 Birmingham

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