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PCN contravention code 27
JOHN27
post Thu, 12 Dec 2019 - 00:30
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Hello All,
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I received a PCN, code 27 Parked in a special enforcement area adjacent to a footpath, cycle track or verge lowered to meet the level of the carriageway.
I believe the PCN to be invalid because :
1. it is nowhere written that it is special enforcement area,
2. My parking did not block any entrance and
3. car was parked correctly and did not parked where verge lowered to meet the carriageway.

Somebody complained to the council that my car is blocking the entrance of their car but I'am sure it wasn't. I have uploaded 5 pictures taken from the council's website but whoever took the pictures did not do great job, it was raining and quite dark at that time. Please look at them and kindly advise.
Thank you all so much for your time and consideration smile.gif !
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post Fri, 13 Dec 2019 - 20:01
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QUOTE (JOHN27 @ Fri, 13 Dec 2019 - 14:59) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Fri, 13 Dec 2019 - 14:52) *
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I am sure there is some kind of misunderstanding and the pictures provided does not show any contravention as well.


I also note that the CEO photos do not establish any contravention nor can they be matched to any location within De Havilland Road.

Excellent smile.gif many thanks!

Hello Guys, So below is the letter which I have drafted as advised by you, please have a look and let me know mellow.gif , MY only worry is that they might say that "even you were at Halford close that doesn't change anything". Please note that it is a mistake on PCN, I was parked at Halford cl. (which is behind the flats) and not at De Havilland road (which is in front of the flats)

Dear Sir / Madam
Ref PCN BT12953205
VRN LN08TKD

It is alleged that I was parked in a special enforcement area adjacent to a footway, cycle track or verge lowered to meet the level of the carriageway.
Location: os 212-222 flats
Street: De Havilland road

I was not. I was parked at Halfords Close.There is no parking place outside these flats (212-222) on De Havilland road. I also note that the CEO photos do not establish any contravention nor can they be matched to any location within the De Havilland Road.

Given that the allegation cannot be substantiated, please confirm cancellation of the PCN.

Kind regards
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post Sun, 15 Dec 2019 - 19:13
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QUOTE (JOHN27 @ Thu, 12 Dec 2019 - 17:10) *
It is actually the Halford close and not De Havilland road as mentioned in PCN.

Well if the allegation is that you were parked illegally on De Havilland Road but your car wasn't on De Havilland road, then the alleged contravention did not occur. However, let's see the council photos in case we can attack the contravention as well.


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post Sun, 15 Dec 2019 - 19:28
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Guys
It's all here
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=132088&hl=

I've asked mods to merge.
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JOHN27
post Mon, 23 Dec 2019 - 01:31
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QUOTE (JOHN27 @ Fri, 13 Dec 2019 - 14:59) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Fri, 13 Dec 2019 - 14:52) *
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I am sure there is some kind of misunderstanding and the pictures provided does not show any contravention as well.


I also note that the CEO photos do not establish any contravention nor can they be matched to any location within De Havilland Road.

Excellent smile.gif many thanks!

They have rejected the informal appeal, in-spite of wrong location and nothing on the photographs that shows contravention, Below is what they wrote to me sad.gif

NOTICE OF REJECTION OF INFORMAL CHALLENGEThank you for writing to us regarding the above Penalty Charge Notice (PCN).Your informal challenge has been considered by this office in accordance with the requirements of theTraffic Management Act 2004. After a careful consideration of the grounds you have made and all otherrelated circumstances we have decided not to cancel your PCN.The reason for the rejection may be summarised as follows:You were issued a PCN for parking against a stretch of lowered, sloping kerb. Kerbs are built like this toallow easy access across them. They exist at different locations for different reasons: to helppedestrians cross the road, especially people with prams or wheelchairs; to allow cars access togarages; and to allow cycles to cross from roads to cycle tracks.I have enclosed the photographs taken at the time the contravention occurred for your information.

What shall I do now guys? I thought to ask you one last time. the images they have are shows nothing, still they have decided to not to cancel the PCN. Thank you all.
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post Mon, 23 Dec 2019 - 17:26
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Show us the rejection letter in full, just redact your name and address. Use an external site like imgur.com to host the pictures as you'll run out of space on here.


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post Wed, 25 Dec 2019 - 02:28
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Mon, 23 Dec 2019 - 17:26) *
Show us the rejection letter in full, just redact your name and address. Use an external site like imgur.com to host the pictures as you'll run out of space on here.

Please find the links below, many thanks:)

https://imgur.com/a/qEEUWMv?

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post Wed, 25 Dec 2019 - 14:19
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Well it's a standard fob-off letter, I would ignore it and wait for the NtO.


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post Thu, 2 Jan 2020 - 12:18
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Wed, 25 Dec 2019 - 14:19) *
Well it's a standard fob-off letter, I would ignore it and wait for the NtO.

Its probably last day for half price £65, it'll be 130 from tomorrow, I am thinking about paying paying it now sad.gif
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post Thu, 2 Jan 2020 - 20:06
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QUOTE (JOHN27 @ Thu, 2 Jan 2020 - 12:18) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Wed, 25 Dec 2019 - 14:19) *
Well it's a standard fob-off letter, I would ignore it and wait for the NtO.

Its probably last day for half price £65, it'll be 130 from tomorrow, I am thinking about paying paying it now sad.gif

I really wouldn't as the alleged contravention very obviously didn't occur, but it's your money to throw away.


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post Thu, 2 Jan 2020 - 22:41
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Thu, 2 Jan 2020 - 20:06) *
QUOTE (JOHN27 @ Thu, 2 Jan 2020 - 12:18) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Wed, 25 Dec 2019 - 14:19) *
Well it's a standard fob-off letter, I would ignore it and wait for the NtO.

Its probably last day for half price £65, it'll be 130 from tomorrow, I am thinking about paying paying it now sad.gif

I really wouldn't as the alleged contravention very obviously didn't occur, but it's your money to throw away.

Thanks for the support mate, I'll fight, nothing in the pictures that suggest any contravention also I was parked at Halford cl and not De Havilland road. Cheers!
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post Fri, 24 Jan 2020 - 10:57
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QUOTE (JOHN27 @ Thu, 2 Jan 2020 - 22:41) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Thu, 2 Jan 2020 - 20:06) *
QUOTE (JOHN27 @ Thu, 2 Jan 2020 - 12:18) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Wed, 25 Dec 2019 - 14:19) *
Well it's a standard fob-off letter, I would ignore it and wait for the NtO.

It's probably last day for half price £65, it'll be 130 from tomorrow, I am thinking about paying it now sad.gif

I really wouldn't as the alleged contravention very obviously didn't occur, but it's your money to throw away.

Thanks for the support mate, I'll fight, nothing in the pictures that suggest any contravention also I was parked at Halford cl and not De Havilland road. Cheers!

I have received NTO. I'm completely new to this, please advise what shall I write to them, please

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post Fri, 24 Jan 2020 - 23:49
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Just send another representation, the same as you did before.


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post Tue, 28 Jan 2020 - 14:58
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Fri, 24 Jan 2020 - 23:49) *
Just send another representation, the same as you did before.

Okay great, thank you buddy smile.gif
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