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FightBack Forums _ Speeding and other Criminal Offences _ Company car NIP issued 16 days after offence
Posted by: stirling ross Mon, 5 Nov 2007 - 09:45
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QUOTE (jeffreyarcher @ Tue, 23 Oct 2007 - 01:32) 
QUOTE (Safety Engineer @ Mon, 22 Oct 2007 - 22:54)
So how does this affect company car drivers, where the registered keeper (the company) states that to the best of thier knowledge the driver is X and gives the drivers details?
The 14 days applies only to he first NIP in the chain, the one to the registered keeper. Companies seldom own vehicles, for tax reasons. The first NIP is therefore likely to be rquired to be received by a leasing company within the 14 days.
QUOTE (Safety Engineer @ Mon, 22 Oct 2007 - 22:54)
Is there a time limit from this point to serve a NIP against the driver?
There are no time limts on NIPs other than the first one (as above).
QUOTE (Safety Engineer @ Mon, 22 Oct 2007 - 22:54)
How could a driver respond in 28 days if the NIP is delayed by the recent postal actions?
1) It's unlikely to be delayed by anything like 28 days,
2) The 28 days starts counting from when the notice is received, and
3) In any case, S172 had a 'reasonably practicable' defence.
I have a company car that is leased thorough my business. The business does not own the car but is presumably the registered keeper? The business received an NIP on the 31.10.07 (I have kept the envelope with bar code...no date), the date of offence was 8.10.07, the NIP was issued on the 24.10.07 (16 days after the offence). The scammers obtained my business address from the leasing company (as we've been given a bill from the leasing company for giving the scammers information). Is there anyway the 14 day rule can be used in this case?
Posted by: The Rookie Mon, 5 Nov 2007 - 10:19
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QUOTE (stirling ross @ Mon, 5 Nov 2007 - 09:45)
I have a company car that is leased thorough my business. The business does not own the car but is presumably the registered keeper?
Who does own the car, if its a leasing company they are likley to be the reg keeper, although with the postal strike the responce sems a bit quick, its not impossible.
If you believe your company are the reg keeper then just take it to court when the NIP chain will have to be disclosed....
Simon
Posted by: jeffreyarcher Mon, 5 Nov 2007 - 12:26
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QUOTE (stirling ross @ Mon, 5 Nov 2007 - 09:45)
The business does not own the car but is presumably the registered keeper?
Highly unlikely. The owner is hardly likley to allow the V5C to be in someone else's name.
The Registered Keeper is, err ... , the Registered Keeper; i.e. the person / company who is on the V5C.
QUOTE (stirling ross @ Mon, 5 Nov 2007 - 09:45)
The scammers obtained my business address from the leasing company (as we've been given a bill from the leasing company for giving the scammers information).
So, how did they get the leasing company's details if not from the V5C?
QUOTE (stirling ross @ Mon, 5 Nov 2007 - 09:45)
Is there anyway the 14 day rule can be used in this case?
Only if the Regitered Keeper, presumably the leasing company, didn't receive theirs within the 14 days.
Bearing in mind the creation date of yours (day 16), that seems unlikely.
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