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[NIP Wizard] Incorrect V5 and NIP address
Gaslight
post Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 21:33
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - July 2018
Date of the NIP: - 8 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 12 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A14 West Bound Carriageway, Stow-***-Quay, Cambridgshire, United Kingdom
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - It is likely that I was speeding. My wifes father was very ill and lives in Cornwall, and I had been rather pre-occupied with his health and the effect it was having on my wife. The NIP arraived through our letterbox, despite being incorrectly addressed. I have just checked the V5 for the vehicle concerned and find that there is a digit missing from the address. I had not previously noticed this. The 28 days is up on Friday. I was tempted to return the NIP saying 'not known at this address' until checking V5 address. I have had previous NIPs with the same vehicle but perhaps didn't check address. What to do now?

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England
- England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:

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post Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 21:46
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QUOTE (Gaslight @ Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 22:33) *
What to do now?

Return the S172 request for driver's details naming yourself as driver.
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post Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 21:52
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Alleged speed and limit?

Playing games with the nomination will backfire spectacularly.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 21:52
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QUOTE (NewJudge @ Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 22:46) *
QUOTE (Gaslight @ Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 22:33) *
What to do now?

Return the S172 request for driver's details naming yourself as driver.



+1. Your only realistic choice.

And get your V5C corrected.


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Gaslight
post Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 16:58
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Thanks all. I have sent back the NIP with my details corrected and will get my V5 corrected. Is there chance of a fine for not having done so previously?
This may be a new topic, but I understand that now they fine a proportion of your salary. I was driving a van at apparently 81 on a dual carriageway, so in a 60 mph limit. I am self employed and don't have a salary per se. How will this work?
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post Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 17:15
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QUOTE (Gaslight @ Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 17:58) *
Thanks all. I have sent back the NIP with my details corrected and will get my V5 corrected. Is there chance of a fine for not having done so previously? This may be a new topic, but I understand that now they fine a proportion of your salary. I was driving a van at apparently 81 on a dual carriageway, so in a 60 mph limit. I am self employed and don't have a salary per se. How will this work?


You are very unlikely to be prosecuted for failing to update your details, it is an offence but very rarely pursued and you will have corrected the record. It is only if you go to court that you meet income related fines, at 81 in a 60 limit you are just within the range for a fixed penalty of £100 + 3 points. The reporting over the adjustment of magistrates' guidance was universally appalling and has confused endless people.

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post Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 19:03
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QUOTE (Gaslight @ Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 17:58) *
Thanks all. I have sent back the NIP with my details corrected and will get my V5 corrected. Is there chance of a fine for not having done so previously?

Having the wrong details on the V5C is only really prosecuted if it's obvious you've registered the wrong details on purpose, thinking you could get away with traffic offences as a result. At least that's the only circumstances where I've known it to be prosecuted.


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