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Makaveli121
post Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 17:24
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Redivi
post Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 17:37
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Remove that picture and the pdf

You've left all the identification info

I think your argument that 3.59 meant the afternoon is a bit thin
According to the confirmation text, the payment system uses the 24 hr clock

You need something stronger for POPLA such as missing, confusing or illegible signs
NCP signs are particularly poor with acres of fine print that nobody will ever read

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post Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 17:55
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post Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 19:09
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QUOTE (Makaveli121 @ Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 17:55) *
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The lack of a zero infront of the 3 means that anyone reading that would naturally assume it's 3pm and not 3am.

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When the line above that gives the start time as 15:32?
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post Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 19:17
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post Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 19:57
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The signs will normally say what "a day" means

Apart from 24 hours, common variations include midnight and when the car park closes

If the signs are silent on the subject there are several possible explanations

1 You only paid for 12 hours (your mistake)
2 You only paid for 12 hours (system mistake)
3 NCP defines a day as 12 hours or it starts/finishes at 4 am

The Consumer Rights Act 2015 S69(1) says that if different meanings are possible, the one most favourable to the consumer will prevail

What can you remember of the sign and the tariff ?

Edit : I see this was an online booking
Can you provide a link to the site ?

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post Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 20:08
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That link only goes to a mobile phone payment portal, from the look of it.

3.59 is the same as 0359. This is confirmed by the entry on the recipt of 1539. You (and we!!) are wasting to much time and energy over a baseless argument.

You should, by now, be reading loads of other recent threads to get a feel for the process and realise that there are many more solid grounds upon which NCP can be beaten that arguing about marginal clock interpretation issues.


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Makaveli121
post Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 20:15
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QUOTE (cabbyman @ Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 20:13) *
That link only goes to a mobile phone payment portal, from the look of it.

3.59 is the same as 0359. This is confirmed by the entry on the recipt of 1539. You (and we!!) are wasting to much time and energy over a baseless argument.

You should, by now, be reading loads of other recent threads to get a feel for the process and realise that there are many more solid grounds upon which NCP can be beaten that arguing about marginal clock interpretation issues.


So I’ve asked for help compiling a popular appeal and all you are doing is being a knob? Why bother replying if you are not going to help.
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post Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 20:18
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Fair enough. Happy Christmas! biggrin.gif

Over to you, Redivi!!! biggrin.gif


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post Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 20:52
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QUOTE (Redivi @ Tue, 18 Dec 2018 - 19:57) *
Apart from 24 hours, common variations include midnight and when the car park closes
3 NCP defines a day as 12 hours or it starts/finishes at 4 am

Train stations - the expiry time is well past the last train but before the next morning start.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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nosferatu1001
post Wed, 19 Dec 2018 - 08:53
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Makaveli - hes not "being a knob", hes pointing ut your argument has no merit.
Thats helpful, as it stops you wasting your time on something doomed to failure.
Youre on an advice forum. That advice included "stop pursuing that topic, it has no merit"
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