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Mister Ross
post Wed, 23 Dec 2009 - 13:19
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If I were to be towed, how much would I be entitled to sue for (circumstances varying of course)? What kind of risk/exposure would I be looking at to lodge a small claim? If I caught a PPC in the progress of towing would I be allowed to dial 999?

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post Wed, 23 Dec 2009 - 14:14
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1) The amount they charged you for release, plus reasonable direct expenses, court fee and interest

2) The court fee plus their reasonable attendance expenses.

3) Yes but the rozzers would tell you it's a "civil matter" and would not attend.


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post Wed, 23 Dec 2009 - 23:22
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QUOTE (dave-o @ Wed, 23 Dec 2009 - 14:14) *
3) Yes but the rozzers would tell you it's a "civil matter" and would not attend.


a civil matter? Would they respond the same way if your house was being burgled?!? Oh, hang on a minute...
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post Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 00:01
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QUOTE (Mister Ross @ Wed, 23 Dec 2009 - 23:22) *
QUOTE (dave-o @ Wed, 23 Dec 2009 - 14:14) *
3) Yes but the rozzers would tell you it's a "civil matter" and would not attend.


a civil matter? Would they respond the same way if your house was being burgled?!? Oh, hang on a minute...



House being burgled... 6 hour repsonse... you have burglers in your house at time of call, 2 hour response... clearly they wouldnt have the manpower to come and help you in your civil matter. However mention theres a car doing 35 in a 30 and they will be there in seconds! Or you could just have some people shout and stuff in the background as you phone, make it sound like things are gonna get outa control and just make sure those people arent there when the police arrive.
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post Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 00:15
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What if you were being towed and you were in the car...? Still 'a civil matter'?

If the tow was illegal you could sue for all direct and unavoidable consequential losses.
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post Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 10:29
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If the scum were to start towing with you in the car, they would then be breaking some quite serious laws and the police would be interested.

There are very few scum who are stupid enough to do this though. Hence, best advice is to wait in the car until they leave.


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post Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 10:50
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What Glagow Bhoy says sums it up, except he forgot to mention with your house being ransacked, you will also get offered counselling if you're lucky.

Mrs.bus was surrounded a few weeks ago by a gang while cabbying, called 999, and was told by the control room operator to phone the local police station when she got home. We don't have a local police station, she may not have got home. what the operator failed to hear was that she is a town councillor and sits on the police forum! Waiting for heads to roll...

So, back to the point, yes, you are entitled to dial 999, but expcect very little response. The other way to GET a response is to say ok, I'll start taking shots. you will be surrounded by armed police within minutes, just giving you enough time to get your camera out.

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post Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 11:20
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If she had declared her position to the call room operator, armed police may have made a show!

Its just like the streets near the councillors houses appear best gritted round here!
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post Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 12:33
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QUOTE (glasgow_bhoy @ Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 00:01) *
QUOTE (Mister Ross @ Wed, 23 Dec 2009 - 23:22) *
QUOTE (dave-o @ Wed, 23 Dec 2009 - 14:14) *
3) Yes but the rozzers would tell you it's a "civil matter" and would not attend.


a civil matter? Would they respond the same way if your house was being burgled?!? Oh, hang on a minute...


House being burgled... 6 hour repsonse... you have burglers in your house at time of call, 2 hour response...


2 hours and they could be doing anything to you in that time. And if you tackled the burglars yourself you would probably end up in jail.
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post Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 15:09
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QUOTE (glasgow_bhoy @ Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 11:20) *
If she had declared her position to the call room operator, armed police may have made a show!

Its just like the streets near the councillors houses appear best gritted round here!

She did, she told the plod she was Cllr mrs. roythebus, and it made not a ha'porth of difference. At the next police forum meeting, the local plod was embarassed to face her! It's not the first time it's happened either.

She doesn't expect special treatment because of her position and doesn't get it, but as a female cab driver too, one of only 2 in this area, she would expect a bit of assistance when confronted at 1 in the morning!

But, as they say, when it comes to speeding...
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post Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 17:58
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"Code Zero, officer requires assistance at [location]". That will always, always get you a response wink.gif


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post Fri, 25 Dec 2009 - 02:32
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my friend who is a police srgt in another area to where he lives

had his house surrounded by 20 thugs armed with bricks and bottles

he rang 999 and said off duty officer needs assistance, the response, nothing, a police car had a drive past THREE hours later and noted all was quite

the problem was solved when next door, who is a bouncer, came out to assist and had a brick thrown at him, made a call and 5 mins later, 5 blokes in a RR sports appeared armed with baseball bats, i think they are still fishing them out of the canal ?

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Reminds me of the case of the bloke who saw some lads breaking into his shed, called the cops who said no-one available to attend. So he rings back two minutes later and says don't bother anyway as i'm going to get my Shotgun out and sort them myself. Minutes later about four police cars screamed up the road !!!!!!


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post Mon, 28 Dec 2009 - 10:57
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I love anecdotes, so reliable.
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post Mon, 28 Dec 2009 - 16:25
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QUOTE (roythebus @ Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 10:50) *
What Glagow Bhoy says sums it up, except he forgot to mention with your house being ransacked, you will also get offered counselling if you're lucky.


Would that be before or after you're cautioned that the intruder may want to make a case against you for the injuries he sustained while breaking in through your window?
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post Mon, 28 Dec 2009 - 22:50
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We need a no-s**t government who make it the law you can cause as much injury as you like to an intruder. I would desrtoy both kneecaps, elbows are break fingers for good measure.

Only danger is that burglers then come more prepared to use violence...

There is no way in hell that, in a free country, a burglar should be allowed to sue.
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post Mon, 28 Dec 2009 - 23:49
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in a free country people do have rights and can lawfully stand up for them without being punished.

not here then..


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post Tue, 29 Dec 2009 - 00:04
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QUOTE (bama @ Mon, 28 Dec 2009 - 23:49) *
in a free country people do have rights and can lawfully stand up for them without being punished.

not here then..


agreed.
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post Tue, 29 Dec 2009 - 12:54
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The thing I find oddest is that when someone commits a criminal offence (not petty offences like speeding by premeditated serious offences like burglery), they are efectively saying 'the rules don't apply to me'. So how can they then turn around and say 'i'm now going to use the rules against you'?
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QUOTE (Ocelot @ Thu, 24 Dec 2009 - 12:33) *
2 hours and they could be doing anything to you in that time. And if you tackled the burglars yourself you would probably end up in jail.

Oh dear. Another Daily Mail reader, I presume? Got anything to support this?

QUOTE (JagDriver @ Tue, 29 Dec 2009 - 12:54) *
The thing I find oddest is that when someone commits a criminal offence (not petty offences like speeding by premeditated serious offences like burglery), they are efectively saying 'the rules don't apply to me'. So how can they then turn around and say 'i'm now going to use the rules against you'?

Ah, yes, because those aren't proper offences, are they? rolleyes.gif


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