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Newham Council PCN - Visitor Parking Permit 6 Hours
URBAN TECH
post Thu, 7 Nov 2019 - 14:04
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Afternoon

Used a genuine Visitor Permit today only to get a PCN, 2 hours into my alloted 6 hours of parking.

My Visitor Permit ticket is below.


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The PCN issued


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Any advice you can guys can offer in my appeal as i was clearly within the time limit.

Thanks

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Neil B
post Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 15:22
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QUOTE (stamfordman @ Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 15:13) *
You will challenge on the basis that the permit was valid

I'd rather hit them head on re the allegation.

'I was not parked longer than permitted as I was displaying a visitor permit for the bay concerned'.

Maybe don't say 'valid' visitor permit. Leave it to them to dig themselves a hole.


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stamfordman
post Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 15:25
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Sure but this a game as we know they will reject. Maybe it's best to get the permit markup on the table from the start as it will save time.
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URBAN TECH
post Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 15:34
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Thanks for your advice.

I will refer to the pictures uploaded and question why the CEO found it invalid, but will stick to my argument that the permit was valid.

Update to follow.

Thanks
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Neil B
post Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 16:32
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QUOTE (stamfordman @ Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 15:25) *
Sure but this a game as we know they will reject. Maybe it's best to get the permit markup on the table from the start as it will save time.

Why flag up something that has not been mentioned and, so far, albeit likely, is an assumption of ours?

Other than speculating we don't know why a PCN was issued. Let them tell us.



QUOTE (URBAN TECH @ Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 15:34) *
Thanks for your advice.

I will refer to the pictures uploaded and question why the CEO found it invalid, but will stick to my argument that the permit was valid.

No, you are still not getting it.
Where/when have they said the permit was invalid.
That is not the allegation (so far).

Wait for others' views.


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hcandersen
post Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 16:49
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PCN *****


I refer to the above which alleges that 'I parked for longer than permitted'.

At 10.30 on the day in question I parked at the location marked by the traffic sign in the authority's photos i.e. permit holders GSN or 30 minutes.

I displayed a GSN visitor's permit which can be seen in your photos, copy enclosed, which allowed parking for 6 hours i.e. 4.30pm.

The PCN was served at 12.17 pm and therefore I was not in contravention as I had more than 4 hours' permitted parking remaining.

Please confirm that you have cancelled the PCN.

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URBAN TECH
post Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 17:00
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 16:32) *
QUOTE (stamfordman @ Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 15:25) *
Sure but this a game as we know they will reject. Maybe it's best to get the permit markup on the table from the start as it will save time.

Why flag up something that has not been mentioned and, so far, albeit likely, is an assumption of ours?

Other than speculating we don't know why a PCN was issued. Let them tell us.



QUOTE (URBAN TECH @ Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 15:34) *
Thanks for your advice.

I will refer to the pictures uploaded and question why the CEO found it invalid, but will stick to my argument that the permit was valid.

No, you are still not getting it.
Where/when have they said the permit was invalid.
That is not the allegation (so far).

Wait for others' views.


Yes they have not said that it was invalid, just that I had overstayed, based on what information I dont no


QUOTE (hcandersen @ Tue, 12 Nov 2019 - 16:49) *
PCN *****


I refer to the above which alleges that 'I parked for longer than permitted'.

At 10.30 on the day in question I parked at the location marked by the traffic sign in the authority's photos i.e. permit holders GSN or 30 minutes.

I displayed a GSN visitor's permit which can be seen in your photos, copy enclosed, which allowed parking for 6 hours i.e. 4.30pm.

The PCN was served at 12.17 pm and therefore I was not in contravention as I had more than 4 hours' permitted parking remaining.

Please confirm that you have cancelled the PCN.


Sounds accurate. Thanks I will go ahead with that.
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