Bus Lane Penalty - worth protesting?, Only 2 wheels in lane, no buses, no queue of traffic etc. |
Bus Lane Penalty - worth protesting?, Only 2 wheels in lane, no buses, no queue of traffic etc. |
Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 20:20
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23 Aug 2019 Member No.: 105,394 |
Bus Lane Penalty - worth protesting?
Only 2 wheels in lane, no buses, no queue of traffic etc. See images below of the Bus Lane Enforcement Charge Notice... Pic 1: https://ibb.co/3F9qkQn Pic 2: https://ibb.co/GP4QjLp Thanks in advance for all your help. |
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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 20:20
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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 20:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 20,915 Joined: 22 Apr 2012 Member No.: 54,455 |
Road seems clear, so why go partially into the bus lane at all ? What distance did you proceed partly in the bus lane ? Certainly the only appeal argument that comes to mind is "de minimis". The PCN may contain fatal errors, of course, but I'm not up-to-speed on Scottish bus lane law and regulations.
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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 20:54
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
Post the video.
Put videos on Youtube, Imgur or such like. |
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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 21:40
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Member Group: Members Posts: 26,655 Joined: 6 Nov 2014 Member No.: 74,048 |
The council say they will serve a charge certificate, but the regs only allow that they may. But lets see the video. That ground is well accepted in England but is untested in Scotland
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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 22:19
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23 Aug 2019 Member No.: 105,394 |
It says that you are able to view the video online prior to paying the charge notice, but as I went through the process it simply wanted to take my card details. I followed the process right until the 'Pay Now' button and there was no way whatsoever to view or download the video of the incident.
The link which says this is below: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20278/par..._charge_notices The council say they will serve a charge certificate, but the regs only allow that they may. Does this suggest that they are prejudicing the result, by effectively saying that a law has been broken, in a notice which is only supposed to allege such? |
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Sat, 24 Aug 2019 - 11:25
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23 Aug 2019 Member No.: 105,394 |
Can anyone offer any further advice as regards the video being impossible to source?
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Mon, 26 Aug 2019 - 01:18
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
PM me the PCN details and I'll have a look.
-------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Tue, 27 Aug 2019 - 08:08
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23 Aug 2019 Member No.: 105,394 |
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Tue, 27 Aug 2019 - 16:15
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
PM me the PCN details and I'll have a look. Hi, I tried to PM you but it said your inbox is full? Regards Try again now -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Tue, 27 Aug 2019 - 20:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o_4qIl2d10
I have to say it doesn't look good, you pass a vehicle turning right which is fine but then you never move back to the traffic lane. The camera doesn't show the which is here https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.955377,-3...3312!8i6656 I think that's because of the curve in the road, so you could check it's still there and visible. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Tue, 27 Aug 2019 - 20:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 26,655 Joined: 6 Nov 2014 Member No.: 74,048 |
I would give this a shot, we do not have much t go on from the Scottish tribunal, but they seem to be a pragmatic lot and that was not the mischief the restriction was designed to prevent
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