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Ohbeggarit
post Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 13:35
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Hi Folks,

After a little advice and guidance.

Received a PCN parked outside my house. Single yellow with restriction from 8am -6pm, Monday to Saturday. They pinched me at 8.14am!

Observed time was 6 minutes.
What are my options with this and likely success at appeal?

Many thanks in advance.


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post Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 13:41
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PCN time is 8:20. What was purpose of parking - any loading?


0845 number on PCN.

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Ohbeggarit
post Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 14:12
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QUOTE (stamfordman @ Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 14:41) *
PCN time is 8:20. What was purpose of parking - any loading?


0845 number on PCN.


Yes, in fact. Primarily unloading a child!
It's directly outside my house. Collected my daughter from her mother's house, nipped into Tesco. Dropped my daughter and the shopping off before moving the car 400 metres to the closest on road parking.
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stamfordman
post Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 16:11
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what were exact movements between 8 and 8.20.
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Ohbeggarit
post Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 16:27
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QUOTE (stamfordman @ Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 17:11) *
what were exact movements between 8 and 8.20.

Exact as I can be.....

Pulled up outside house, parked on single yellow at approx 8.12am
Took said child and shopping into house. Unpacked, toilet etc.
Came down around 8.21am to move car, saw ticket and arse end of council van pulling away.
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Neil B
post Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 16:41
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Reinstate the obscured on the PCN.


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Ohbeggarit
post Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 16:48
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 17:41) *
Reinstate the obscured on the PCN.


Which parts?
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post Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 17:36
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Everything, except VRM if you're worried about it.

We don't need PCN number either.


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Ohbeggarit
post Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 18:25
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 18:36) *
Everything, except VRM if you're worried about it.

We don't need PCN number either.

Here ya go

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post Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 21:01
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Thanks. I just wanted to check those deadline dates they gave you (unnecessarily) were correct;
and they are.

Wait for others to look at the back of the pcn cos I'm not happy with something but rusty.

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Back on the core issue, how old is the child? Buggy?
How much shopping? Got the receipt?



Did you see the CEO ?


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Ohbeggarit
post Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 21:15
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Sat, 15 Jun 2019 - 22:01) *
Thanks. I just wanted to check those deadline dates they gave you (unnecessarily) were correct;
and they are.

Wait for others to look at the back of the pcn cos I'm not happy with something but rusty.

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Back on the core issue, how old is the child? Buggy?
How much shopping? Got the receipt?



Did you see the CEO ?


Child is 5. About 25 quids worth of shopping - a couple of bags.
The only thing I saw of CEO was the back of a Cornwall Council van during away.

You've spotting something amiss?
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post Sun, 16 Jun 2019 - 12:02
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boarding/alighting is an exemption, and when assisting a child or someone who needs help this can involve leaving the vehicle to see them safe inside, (you can't tuck them up in bed ) but get them inside safe then you may claim the exemption


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post Sun, 16 Jun 2019 - 12:26
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and 8 minutes is just a little longer than we'd expect.


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post Sun, 16 Jun 2019 - 12:33
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Sun, 16 Jun 2019 - 13:26) *
and 8 minutes is just a little longer than we'd expect.


Have a peak at GSV, it is arguable 8 mins would be reasonable., The PCN is OK just IMO other than the 0845 number but we need to find out what the service charge is


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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Sun, 16 Jun 2019 - 13:33) *
The PCN is OK just IMO

3 (2) (b)(ii) ?

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post Sun, 16 Jun 2019 - 16:45
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Sun, 16 Jun 2019 - 14:06) *
QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Sun, 16 Jun 2019 - 13:33) *
The PCN is OK just IMO

3 (2) (b)(ii) ?


I don't think it would fly. Its not as per regs but I think would be found SC


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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Sun, 16 Jun 2019 - 13:33) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Sun, 16 Jun 2019 - 13:26) *
and 8 minutes is just a little longer than we'd expect.


Have a peak at GSV, it is arguable 8 mins would be reasonable., The PCN is OK just IMO other than the 0845 number but we need to find out what the service charge is

5p per minute


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Ohbeggarit
post Mon, 17 Jun 2019 - 20:47
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Thanks for your replies.

So, from what I can gather, the PCN is in order?
Is it worth appealing on the grounds that 8 minutes would be a reasonable amount of time for unloading? I do live in a town house where the kitchen is on the top floor......
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post Mon, 17 Jun 2019 - 22:03
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yes but post a draft here before you send


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Ohbeggarit
post Thu, 20 Jun 2019 - 16:43
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Mon, 17 Jun 2019 - 23:03) *
yes but post a draft here before you send


That's really what I could do with a little help with, I have no idea how to structure an appeal as I really don't a clue what I'm talking about!
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