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38 in 30 zone - NIP almost 3 months later
skybooks
post Thu, 21 Feb 2019 - 20:22
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APOLOGIES: added likely reason for delay - though I cannot be sure.

Hi,

Received a NIP from speeding offense committed on 20/11/18. I was doing 38 in a 40 zone. Date on NIP is 9 Feb 2019 and received 14/02/2019.

I tried to use the NIP wizard but it comes up as not applicable because of the time between offense and NIP - and it sent me to the RAC legal advice post.

As far as aware this is the first letter received. It is my personal car and was purchased end of JUNE 2018.

I am attaching an image of the NIP.

There may be a reason for late notice. I moved houses on 09/11/18. I sent off notification to DVLA of new address within a few days, but I now see date on new logbook is 04/01/19

What is the advice for this?


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post Thu, 21 Feb 2019 - 20:50
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So the NIP would have been sent to your old address. Did you have mail redirection in place, I'm guessing not?
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post Thu, 21 Feb 2019 - 21:01
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - November 2018
Date of the NIP: - 81 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 86 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A10 Stamford Hill nr Homleigh Rd S/B N16 (1571), UNITED KINGDOM
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I was driving at night and seems I was driving over limit.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - No
Was there a valid reason for the NIP's late arrival? - Unsure
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:56:16 +0000



QUOTE (BaggieBoy @ Thu, 21 Feb 2019 - 21:50) *
So the NIP would have been sent to your old address. Did you have mail redirection in place, I'm guessing not?

Unfortunately not.

Would the letter I received refer to this at all?

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post Thu, 21 Feb 2019 - 21:05
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Well yes, so there was a valid reason for the delay. This speed qualifies for a course, provided you have not previously done one for an offence within the three years before this latest offence.


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post Thu, 21 Feb 2019 - 21:13
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QUOTE (Logician @ Thu, 21 Feb 2019 - 22:05) *
Well yes, so there was a valid reason for the delay. This speed qualifies for a course, provided you have not previously done one for an offence within the three years before this latest offence.

Ok, thanks. No previous offenses. I assume the course is best option?
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post Thu, 21 Feb 2019 - 21:49
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QUOTE (skybooks @ Thu, 21 Feb 2019 - 21:13) *
QUOTE (Logician @ Thu, 21 Feb 2019 - 22:05) *
Well yes, so there was a valid reason for the delay. This speed qualifies for a course, provided you have not previously done one for an offence within the three years before this latest offence.

Ok, thanks. No previous offenses. I assume the course is best option?

By far, yes.


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post Fri, 22 Feb 2019 - 07:13
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QUOTE (skybooks @ Thu, 21 Feb 2019 - 20:22) *
APOLOGIES: added likely reason for delay - though I cannot be sure.

Hi,

Received a NIP from speeding offense committed on 20/11/18. I was doing 38 in a 40 zone. Date on NIP is 9 Feb 2019 and received 14/02/2019.

I tried to use the NIP wizard but it comes up as not applicable because of the time between offense and NIP - and it sent me to the RAC legal advice post.

As far as aware this is the first letter received. It is my personal car and was purchased end of JUNE 2018.

I am attaching an image of the NIP.

There may be a reason for late notice. I moved houses on 09/11/18. I sent off notification to DVLA of new address within a few days, but I now see date on new logbook is 04/01/19

What is the advice for this?


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You have stated that you were doing 38mph in a 40mph.
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post Fri, 22 Feb 2019 - 08:26
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The NIP clearly says 30 limit, an easily understood typo by the OP I would have thought.


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skybooks
post Fri, 22 Feb 2019 - 12:11
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Yes was typo.

Many thanks for all the replies.

Very much appreciated. Hope they will offer course.
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Get it sent off pronto as most police areas don't offer courses after 4 months


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