Councils to charge firms £1000 for car park spaces. Options

[Korting]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-66...ion-cities.html

In other newspapers as well, this seems like a revenue raiser. Some people have no access to public transport, or it will take them ages to get to and from work.

This is especially true in big cities like London where if you live in one suburb but work in another, you either have to go into London and come out (then possibly walk or take a bus) this can add an hour or more each way to your journey times.

Lets discuss

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[DancingDad]

Some places like Nottingham already charge
https://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/transport...e-parking-levy/
The Sheriff lives on in spirit if not in body.

[I am Weasel]

This idea resurfaces every year or so. Note the words like "could" and "considering". This is just a rehashed article used as filler, or to engage the typical DM reader

[nigelbb]

I think that it’s a great idea & the costs should be passed on to the motorist/employee. If you are commuting in a car rather than using public transport an extra couple of quid a day is hardly going to break the bank & the council can use the money to improve public transport.

[mickR]

I think that it’s a great idea & the costs should be passed on to the motorist/employee. If you are commuting in a car rather than using public transport an extra couple of quid a day is hardly going to break the bank & the council can use the money to improve public transport.

Not forgetting of course that many areas especially industrial don't have public transport links or if they do, very infrequent and poor service.
Not long before we are back to pre war status of walking for hours.
Horses wouldn't be an option as the council will almost certainly introduce a sh!t tax and fines for fouling the road.

[Broadsman]

I think that it’s a great idea & the costs should be passed on to the motorist/employee. If you are commuting in a car rather than using public transport an extra couple of quid a day is hardly going to break the bank & the council can use the money to improve public transport.

I believe you know Norfolk Nigel.

I live near Acle.

I work near Attleborough.

There is no public transport for the last 3 miles of my commute.

If I did use public transport, I would have to leave home at 0515 to start at 0800. As it is, I leave at 0720.

Why should I, and many others, be penalised due to public transport not being available?

In a previous life I was a mobile engineer around Norfolk, I wouldn't even get to more than one job in a day on public transport.

[Incandescent]

The French have had a levy for years called "Versement Transport". The plain fact is that unrestricted private car use in cities is not possible after we abandoned all work on infrastructure developments in the 70s. In Germany, they make public transport more attractive for work by allowing fare deductions from the income tax bill. Car use is not deductable. This seems to me a better way of getting people back onto public transport.

[nigelbb]

I think that it’s a great idea & the costs should be passed on to the motorist/employee. If you are commuting in a car rather than using public transport an extra couple of quid a day is hardly going to break the bank & the council can use the money to improve public transport.

I believe you know Norfolk Nigel.

I live near Acle.

I work near Attleborough.

There is no public transport for the last 3 miles of my commute.

If I did use public transport, I would have to leave home at 0515 to start at 0800. As it is, I leave at 0720.

Why should I, and many others, be penalised due to public transport not being available?

In a previous life I was a mobile engineer around Norfolk, I wouldn't even get to more than one job in a day on public transport.

The article discussed the scheme already in existence in Nottingham (which helps fund their excellent tram system) plus proposals from a few other councils e.g. Reading, Cambridge, Bristol and the London boroughs of Merton, Brent, Camden & Hounslow. These are all urban areas where the levy would be entirely appropriate. Attleborough & Acle could never be described as urban & in fact in Norfolk only Norwich would qualify. Incidentally I just checked & apparently the public car parks in Attleborough are free.

BTW this levy on parking spaces at the employees place of work would not impact a mobile engineer other than for the cost of the "home" parking space & there is nothing in the proposals that would ban the use of a car or van & force the use of public transport.

[The Slithy Tove]

This idea resurfaces every year or so. Note the words like "could" and "considering". This is just a rehashed article used as filler, or to engage the typical DM reader

I would expect that in many areas, if the council were to suggest this, then many businesses would say to them, "you impose these charges, we're off somewhere else".

[Korting]

This idea resurfaces every year or so. Note the words like "could" and "considering". This is just a rehashed article used as filler, or to engage the typical DM reader

I would expect that in many areas, if the council were to suggest this, then many businesses would say to them, "you impose these charges, we're off somewhere else".

+1

Have you ever tried using the underground during rush hour? Sometimes the system is so packed you cant even get onto the platforms, let alone the trains. What then happens if everyone stopped driving and took public transport?

I do like the idea of public transport for commuters be tax deductible, that could make things very attractive.

This post has been edited by Korting: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 - 13:18

[Ocelot]

Whenever I go on the Waterloo and City Line in the rush hour (fortunately no longer every day) there's a 20 minute wait just to get onto the platform, so not particularly easy.

Public transport isn't an option to the industrial estate I work on. Even if it was, it would be a 7 hour round trip to and from work every day.

[The Slithy Tove]

Whenever I go on the Waterloo and City Line in the rush hour (fortunately no longer every day) there's a 20 minute wait just to get onto the platform, so not particularly easy.

I avoid "The Drain" like the plague when I have to travel into the City. Prefer the slower bus, depending on where I am heading, or the hire bikes (the cycle Superhighway across Blackfriars Bridge makes that a lot less scary than it was).

Jubilee line from Waterloo towards Canary Wharf isn't much better. Not much alternative if heading that way, though.

[cp8759]

Jubilee line from Waterloo towards Canary Wharf isn't much better. Not much alternative if heading that way, though.

Nonsense, you can catch the RB1 which goes from Waterloo Pier to Canary Wharf

[youreds91]

Nottingham (which helps fund their excellent tram system)

That was a tongue in cheek comment wasn't it? The word express in Nottingham Express Transit is a bit of a misnomer.

[DancingDad]

IIRC many of the complaints in Nottingham were about the charge being levied on companies on the outskirts of the city.
Places where public transport was not a realistic alternative for many of the employees.

[The Rookie]

I mostly cycle to work, takes me just under 30 minutes actual ride time, total time out the house is about 20-25 minutes longer than if I drive (OK in the morning, very congested in the evening). Public transport takes over 1 1/2 hours each way as I have to catch a bus into town, change bus (about a 30 minute wait) and then the bus to work goes via another town (with multiple stops on the way) and would only be around 15 minutes faster than walking the 7 miles to work!

This post has been edited by The Rookie: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 - 15:57

[Ocelot]

Whenever I go on the Waterloo and City Line in the rush hour (fortunately no longer every day) there's a 20 minute wait just to get onto the platform, so not particularly easy.

I avoid "The Drain" like the plague when I have to travel into the City. Prefer the slower bus, depending on where I am heading, or the hire bikes (the cycle Superhighway across Blackfriars Bridge makes that a lot less scary than it was).

Jubilee line from Waterloo towards Canary Wharf isn't much better. Not much alternative if heading that way, though.

Jubilee line is slower in my experience.

I used to catch buses in the 90s from Waterloo to Clerkenwell from the collenade, and still remember the bus numbers. Unfortunately they are not as good to Bishopsgate.

[Bruno]

[quote name='DancingDad' post='1454050' date='Tue, 22 Jan 2019 - 13:31']IIRC many of the complaints in Nottingham were about the charge being levied on companies on the outskirts of the city.
Yes they are trying to make their boundaries spread a lot further in order to persecute the motorists more.

This post has been edited by Bruno: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 - 06:52