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southpaw82
post Thu, 1 Feb 2018 - 17:50
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Pick the bones out of this.


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Pick the bones out of this.


From the photographs in SP's article it looks as though they were using this unit,

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/141914253599?chn=p...7426&crdt=0


Clearly not very accurate !.. or the hand was moving at over 90mph!! wink.gif
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post Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 15:54
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QUOTE (Fredd @ Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 15:06) *
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but I think they recognised people would need to call people to let them know they will be late for work/an appointment/a bit on the side.

You don't "need" to phone anyone. Believe it or not, motorways, traffic jams and appointments predate mobile phones by many years, and the Earth rotated about its axis even then without people making phone calls from their cars. biggrin.gif

And Bluetooth exists for those who are addicted.
Dirt cheap as well for a simple interface or ear piece.
Or enabled radio.

Though I don't know why cheap is important to anyone willing to pay a small fortune for a phone or contract.

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post Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 16:21
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QUOTE (Fredd @ Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 15:06) *
QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 14:56) *
but I think they recognised people would need to call people to let them know they will be late for work/an appointment/a bit on the side.

You don't "need" to phone anyone. Believe it or not, motorways, traffic jams and appointments predate mobile phones by many years, and the Earth rotated about its axis even then without people making phone calls from their cars. biggrin.gif

Yes but before mobile phones you weren't expected to call when you were running late. Now despite NHS car driving policy being they will surgically remove your hands if you even think about a phone when driving (including hands free), everyone thinks you must be dead and starts stealing the good stationery from your desk if you don't call to say you'll be five minutes late.

Good stationery in this sense being anything not manufactured by the bastards at Qconnect.
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post Mon, 5 Feb 2018 - 10:11
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QUOTE (Fredd @ Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 15:06) *
QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 14:56) *
but I think they recognised people would need to call people to let them know they will be late for work/an appointment/a bit on the side.

You don't "need" to phone anyone. Believe it or not, motorways, traffic jams and appointments predate mobile phones by many years, and the Earth rotated about its axis even then without people making phone calls from their cars. biggrin.gif

As a long term member of the Flat Earth Society, I could argue with that.


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post Mon, 5 Feb 2018 - 20:08
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The mobile phone law refers specifically to mobile phones. "They" cannot apply it to other devices just because you think it makes sense.

Well, indeed. Point thus yes, I think it should also apply to other items...
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post Mon, 5 Feb 2018 - 23:16
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QUOTE (Tartarus @ Mon, 5 Feb 2018 - 20:08) *
QUOTE (666 @ Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 14:33) *
The mobile phone law refers specifically to mobile phones. "They" cannot apply it to other devices just because you think it makes sense.

Well, indeed. Point thus yes, I think it should also apply to other items...

No.
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post Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 09:43
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QUOTE (Tartarus @ Mon, 5 Feb 2018 - 20:08) *
QUOTE (666 @ Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 14:33) *
The mobile phone law refers specifically to mobile phones. "They" cannot apply it to other devices just because you think it makes sense.

Well, indeed. Point thus yes, I think it should also apply to other items...


Such as?
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post Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 12:25
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QUOTE (spanner345 @ Mon, 5 Feb 2018 - 11:11) *
QUOTE (Fredd @ Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 15:06) *
QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 14:56) *
but I think they recognised people would need to call people to let them know they will be late for work/an appointment/a bit on the side.

You don't "need" to phone anyone. Believe it or not, motorways, traffic jams and appointments predate mobile phones by many years, and the Earth rotated about its axis even then without people making phone calls from their cars. biggrin.gif

As a long term member of the Flat Earth Society, I could argue with that.

Does a flat earth not rotate then?


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post Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 12:31
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QUOTE (mickR @ Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 09:43) *
QUOTE (Tartarus @ Mon, 5 Feb 2018 - 20:08) *
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The mobile phone law refers specifically to mobile phones. "They" cannot apply it to other devices just because you think it makes sense.

Well, indeed. Point thus yes, I think it should also apply to other items...


Such as?

Cigarettes, books, make up, large sandwiches... all I have seen people use while driving! If you can be prosecuted for having at least one hand off the wheel when using any of these, then why the specific mobile phone law? Because you are probably not looking at the road? I've seen people not look at the road when changing radio station and while using make up in their cars. My only thought is because mobile phones are so pervasive now, it's not necessarily about applying existing laws, it's about making one specific to phones (and having it labelled as such), that people might, possibly, pay attention to its existence.
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 12:25) *
QUOTE (spanner345 @ Mon, 5 Feb 2018 - 11:11) *
QUOTE (Fredd @ Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 15:06) *
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but I think they recognised people would need to call people to let them know they will be late for work/an appointment/a bit on the side.

You don't "need" to phone anyone. Believe it or not, motorways, traffic jams and appointments predate mobile phones by many years, and the Earth rotated about its axis even then without people making phone calls from their cars. biggrin.gif

As a long term member of the Flat Earth Society, I could argue with that.

Does a flat earth not rotate then?

No, the universal accelerator is constantly accelerating the Earth upwards, giving the illusion of gravity.


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post Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 12:56
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QUOTE (Tartarus @ Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 12:31) *
QUOTE (mickR @ Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 09:43) *
QUOTE (Tartarus @ Mon, 5 Feb 2018 - 20:08) *
QUOTE (666 @ Sun, 4 Feb 2018 - 14:33) *
The mobile phone law refers specifically to mobile phones. "They" cannot apply it to other devices just because you think it makes sense.

Well, indeed. Point thus yes, I think it should also apply to other items...


Such as?

Cigarettes, books, make up, large sandwiches... all I have seen people use while driving! If you can be prosecuted for having at least one hand off the wheel when using any of these, then why the specific mobile phone law? Because you are probably not looking at the road? I've seen people not look at the road when changing radio station and while using make up in their cars. My only thought is because mobile phones are so pervasive now, it's not necessarily about applying existing laws, it's about making one specific to phones (and having it labelled as such), that people might, possibly, pay attention to its existence.


It's not a case of having one hand off the wheel with the myriad of items that a driver can hold or be distracted by, the being in control laws cover them.
But can be subjective so would normally require the cops to witness something like weaving or late braking in support.
Powers that be decided that holding/using a mobile created a specific danger so made that a specific.

There are many other examples.
Take the white lines in the middle of a road.
It is not illegal to cross lines with long, closely spaced white dashes. But may be used in support of dangerous driving.
It is illegal to cross solid white lines.
General versus specific, common.

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It is illegal to cross solid white lines.


Sometimes.
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post Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 15:21
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QUOTE (666 @ Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 15:15) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 12:56) *
It is illegal to cross solid white lines.


Sometimes.


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I'll stick with illegal unless an exemption applies

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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 15:21) *
QUOTE (666 @ Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 15:15) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 12:56) *
It is illegal to cross solid white lines.


Sometimes.


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I'll stick with illegal unless an exemption applies


How would you pass a stationary or broken down vehicle if there were solid white lines, would you just wait until they moved off/towed away? The old fella on the bike doing 2mph? The pig being chased down the road by angry wasps?
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Also, how would you enter/exit premises or a side road?
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but I think they recognised people would need to call people to let them know they will be late for work/an appointment/a bit on the side.

You don't "need" to phone anyone. Believe it or not, motorways, traffic jams and appointments predate mobile phones by many years, and the Earth rotated about its axis even then without people making phone calls from their cars. biggrin.gif

As a long term member of the Flat Earth Society, I could argue with that.

Does a flat earth not rotate then?

No, the universal accelerator is constantly accelerating the Earth upwards, giving the illusion of gravity.

Gravity has nothing to do with spinning (in fact the spinning reduces the effect of gravity unless you are standing at the poles), so again do flat earthers believe the earth doesn't rotate? If it doesn't how do all the planets in the nigh sky go round us so fast?


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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Wed, 7 Feb 2018 - 12:25) *
so again do flat earthers believe the earth doesn't rotate? If it doesn't how do all the planets in the nigh sky go round us so fast?

One of the many strange things about the Flat Earthers (well, some of them at least - no doubt there are many competing factions) is that they accept that other planets are spherical, but not the Earth.


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QUOTE (Fredd @ Wed, 7 Feb 2018 - 12:36) *
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Wed, 7 Feb 2018 - 12:25) *
so again do flat earthers believe the earth doesn't rotate? If it doesn't how do all the planets in the nigh sky go round us so fast?

One of the many strange things about the Flat Earthers (well, some of them at least - no doubt there are many competing factions) is that they accept that other planets are spherical, but not the Earth.


Do they still believe the Sun orbits the earth?

While we're at it, do they also still believe in Sea Monsters, Witches and list 'Jedi' as their religion?
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QUOTE (spanner345 @ Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 12:47) *
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but I think they recognised people would need to call people to let them know they will be late for work/an appointment/a bit on the side.

You don't "need" to phone anyone. Believe it or not, motorways, traffic jams and appointments predate mobile phones by many years, and the Earth rotated about its axis even then without people making phone calls from their cars. biggrin.gif

As a long term member of the Flat Earth Society, I could argue with that.

Does a flat earth not rotate then?

No, the universal accelerator is constantly accelerating the Earth upwards, giving the illusion of gravity.


How do helium filled balloons work then?


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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Tue, 6 Feb 2018 - 12:56) *
It is illegal to cross solid white lines.


Sometimes.


biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I'll stick with illegal unless an exemption applies


How would you pass a stationary or broken down vehicle if there were solid white lines, would you just wait until they moved off/towed away? The old fella on the bike doing 2mph? The pig being chased down the road by angry wasps?


Or pass a stop line (ever)? Or enter a bus lane?
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