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Doing an act tending and intending to pervert the course of public justice, Indictable offence, citizen's arrest question
manuel-fawlty
post Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:18
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1) Is the offence of committing an act, here being the fabricating or disposing of evidence, tending and intending to PERVERT the course of public justice, an indictable offence?

2) If it is indeed an indictable offence, in what circumstances could a CITIZEN'S arrest of a person reasonably suspected by the arrestor of being guilty of that (already committed) offence be lawful?

3) Is the answer to 2) different if the person reasonably suspected of that offence a POLICE OFFICER, and the police are reasonably suspected by the arrestor of engaging or having engaged in a cover-up of a colleague, and therefore it is not practicable that a constable would make the arrest instead?

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peterguk
post Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:31
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This forum focuses on motoring offences.

You might find Legal Beagles more suited to your inquiry:

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southpaw82
post Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:39
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Good luck effecting the arrest of a police officer rolleyes.gif


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DancingDad
post Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:43
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Citizens Arrest for suspected PCOJ?

You 'aving a laff ?
Sorry but I got to ask.

AFAIK, citizens arrest can only be lawful when it is impractical for the police to make the arrest and is necessary to prevent injury, loss or damage to property or tp prevent escape.
None of which can I see applying to PCOJ unless the suspect is doing a runner.

I believe it is an indictable offense but that is not the only requirement
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post Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:46
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:43) *
Citizens Arrest for suspected PCOJ?

You 'aving a laff ?
Sorry but I got to ask.

AFAIK, citizens arrest can only be lawful when it is impractical for the police to make the arrest and is necessary to prevent injury, loss or damage to property or tp prevent escape.
None of which can I see applying to PCOJ unless the suspect is doing a runner.

I believe it is an indictable offense but that is not the only requirement

Step one in any legal advice is "will it serve any useful purpose?". If no, don’t waste your time. In this case the answer is clearly no.


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post Fri, 26 Jan 2018 - 00:00
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QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:46) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:43) *
Citizens Arrest for suspected PCOJ?

You 'aving a laff ?
Sorry but I got to ask.

AFAIK, citizens arrest can only be lawful when it is impractical for the police to make the arrest and is necessary to prevent injury, loss or damage to property or tp prevent escape.
None of which can I see applying to PCOJ unless the suspect is doing a runner.

I believe it is an indictable offense but that is not the only requirement

Step one in any legal advice is "will it serve any useful purpose?". If no, don’t waste your time. In this case the answer is clearly no.


Ain't arguing SP, TBH I still think it is a wind up.
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notmeatloaf
post Fri, 26 Jan 2018 - 22:42
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Give it a try, it will almost certainly be the first successful citizen's arrest of plod.
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DastardlyDick
post Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 19:49
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I think the OP has been looking at FoTL sites - it's the sort of nonsense they'd come up with!
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southpaw82
post Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 19:56
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If the OP goes ahead with it I hope it ends up on YouTube.


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samthecat
post Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 20:04
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If you can arrest a judge why not the 5-0?

http://birkenhead.fmotl.com/


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