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[NIP Wizard] schmal |
Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 09:11
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 22 Jul 2014 Member No.: 72,043 |
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - July 2014 Date of the NIP: - 5 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 9 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A90 Petterden Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - How many current points do you have? - 0 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Visiting Scotland, overtook a vehicle, came around the bend and was in the process of moving over to the left hand lane. I only noticed the second flash (GATSO), requested the photo evidence, and the camera took two shots, but it is difficult to quanify the speed from the photograph. The radar registered a speed of 81MPH - which may have been correct as I normally travel mid to high 70's on the motorway. I live in Swansea, so being taken to court could be costly as the speed camera partnership have informed me that any prosecution would happen in Dundee which is the other side of the country. I think if they make me travel to Dundee, I'll bring some thermite with me and lumberjack the bastard camera NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - Scotland NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:11:08 +0000 |
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 09:24
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,226 Joined: 3 Sep 2007 Member No.: 13,453 |
What are you asking us?
You know you were driving and the speed you were travelling at. As this is Scotland, it's £100 and 3 points - you won't go to court for it...... -------------------- www.BMWEnthusiasts.co.uk
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 10:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,572 Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Member No.: 36,528 |
You could go the unsigned route but hardly worth the hassle as you have a clean licence.
"The radar registered a speed of 81MPH - which may have been correct as I normally travel mid to high 70's on the motorway" If you do that on A roads as well you are going to come across cameras. -------------------- |
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 10:10
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 22 Jul 2014 Member No.: 72,043 |
...I will if I don't pay !
Interesting point, now Thermite may be the solution to the camera issue. BTW it was a Dual Carriageway at national speed limit (which is too low). |
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 11:58
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,423 Joined: 15 Apr 2009 From: Winnersh, UK Member No.: 27,840 |
...I will if I don't pay ! Interesting point, now Thermite may be the solution to the camera issue. BTW it was a Dual Carriageway at national speed limit (which is too low). Tell us the court and the date and I'll bring some popcorn Seriously though - take the £100 and 3 points it is the cheapest option. I cannot see you getting a not guilty verdict As for the comment about thermite, I know it was meant as a joke, but the moderators on here don't like such talk |
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 12:01
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
I cannot see you getting a not guilty verdict He'd need a defence for that - and since OP doesn't have one, that makes life a bit tricky... -------------------- |
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 12:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 876 Joined: 30 Jul 2010 Member No.: 39,393 |
Whether you think the National Speed Limit for a dual carriageway is too low or not is neither here nor there. You won't get much argument round here, but it doesn't in any way help your situation.
Accept the FPN will be the cheapest and easiest option. |
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 16:12
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Member Group: Members Posts: 33,610 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
As for the comment about thermite, I know it was meant as a joke, but the moderators on here don't like such talk Don't we? Thermite would destroy the camera but to "lumberjack" a shaped cutting charge or det cord might be more effective. This post has been edited by southpaw82: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 16:14 -------------------- Moderator
Any comments made do not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon. No lawyer/client relationship should be assumed nor should any duty of care be owed. |
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 19:07
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Member Group: Members Posts: 9,529 Joined: 5 May 2011 From: UK Member No.: 46,399 |
Indeed it would, but the only reason to shape the charge is to control, the collapse. Simple C4 will do the job on a 10' pole.
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 19:18
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,572 Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Member No.: 36,528 |
What's wrong with the traditional burning necklace of an old tyre filled with petrol?
Apart from not being very eco-friendly -------------------- |
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 21:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,755 Joined: 27 May 2011 Member No.: 47,031 |
I'm surprised that students don't pinch the whole unit...make a great bedroom feature next to them there cones.
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Tue, 22 Jul 2014 - 21:47
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Member Group: Members Posts: 33,610 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
I'm surprised that students don't pinch the whole unit...make a great bedroom feature next to them there cones. If an engineering student they could set it up as an epic alarm clock. -------------------- Moderator
Any comments made do not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon. No lawyer/client relationship should be assumed nor should any duty of care be owed. |
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Wed, 23 Jul 2014 - 02:02
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,423 Joined: 15 Apr 2009 From: Winnersh, UK Member No.: 27,840 |
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