[HELP] 71mph on a 60mph variable on M1 |
[HELP] 71mph on a 60mph variable on M1 |
Wed, 22 Jan 2014 - 10:23
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Member Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 6 Mar 2008 Member No.: 17,853 |
Hi,
Got a NIP northbound on the M1. Weather conditions where bad and the variable speed limit was varied a lot. I don't remember the flash and now I have this NIP. What should I do next? do I request the pics first or complete and send back then ask for the pics?or both? I have had 3 points before what can I expect? NIP wizrd output below.. Thanks NIP Details and Circumstances What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - November 2013 Date of the NIP: - 44 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 46 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - 60 MPH variable Speed Limit, M1 Motorway, Northbound, Bedfordshire, UK Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - How many current points do you have? - 3 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Weather conditions not great and the variable speeds varying over several stretches of the M1 NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:23:54 +0000 This post has been edited by jig: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 - 13:55 |
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Wed, 22 Jan 2014 - 10:45
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,547 Joined: 17 May 2010 Member No.: 37,614 |
Any particular question ?
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Wed, 22 Jan 2014 - 10:47
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Any particular question ? There's been a few M1 cases in November recently...? Might just be coincidence. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Wed, 22 Jan 2014 - 10:53
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,723 Joined: 3 Apr 2006 From: North Hampshire Member No.: 5,183 |
OP has got "previous" for creating a thread via the NIP wizard and never following up.
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Wed, 22 Jan 2014 - 11:03
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
You could search for the other cases here and read up on the vague locus
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Wed, 22 Jan 2014 - 13:24
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Member Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 6 Mar 2008 Member No.: 17,853 |
Hi Guys,
Sorry, got the ticket through have read about the chap who's lawyer claimed the font used for the numbers was not legal and not to sure what happened? OK, so what do I do next I have 28 days from the 9th of Jan. Do I fill in my details then ask for photos or ask for photos now? Thanks |
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Wed, 22 Jan 2014 - 14:09
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Sorry, got the ticket through have read about the chap who's lawyer claimed the font used for the numbers was not legal and not to sure what happened? I think you mean the M42 - see here - I wouldn't have thought that applies to the M1, especially after this.OK, so what do I do next I have 28 days from the 9th of Jan. Do I fill in my details then ask for photos or ask for photos now? You have to ask for photo's before returning the nomination. They don't have to provide and the 28 days isn't extended.
-------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Tue, 4 Feb 2014 - 15:51
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Member Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 6 Mar 2008 Member No.: 17,853 |
UPDATE: Received photos and calibration certificate by email after chasing and have attached. Please can anyone help to see if there any mistakes??
Thanks in Advance Hi,
Got a NIP northbound on the M1. Weather conditions where bad and the variable speed limit was varied a lot. I don't remember the flash and now I have this NIP. What should I do next? do I request the pics first or complete and send back then ask for the pics?or both? I have had 3 points before what can I expect? NIP wizrd output below.. Thanks NIP Details and Circumstances What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - November 2013 Date of the NIP: - 44 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 46 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - 60 MPH variable Speed Limit, M1 Motorway, Northbound, Bedfordshire, UK Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - How many current points do you have? - 3 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Weather conditions not great and the variable speeds varying over several stretches of the M1 NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:23:54 +0000
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Tue, 4 Feb 2014 - 16:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,226 Joined: 3 Sep 2007 Member No.: 13,453 |
Speed awareness course if you return the driver nomination in time. These are HADECS cameras so typically accurate - the doubt comes from what the gantry read at the time...........
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Tue, 4 Feb 2014 - 16:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Car on the right:
Seems to have traveled just over 10 marks. Assuming each mark is 2m then that is around 71mph. 10.2 x 2 / 0.641 x 2.236 = 71 -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Tue, 4 Feb 2014 - 16:58
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Member Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 6 Mar 2008 Member No.: 17,853 |
Thanks. So not much do i just request the course? best next steps options?
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Tue, 4 Feb 2014 - 17:02
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Member Group: Members Posts: 9,529 Joined: 5 May 2011 From: UK Member No.: 46,399 |
Thanks. So not much do i just request the course? best next steps options? Name yourself quickly. Get proof of postage. They will offer you a course provided you haven't done one in the last 3 years. It's all done by the numbers so you either qualify or not. No point asking in my view. |
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Tue, 4 Feb 2014 - 17:03
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Course is usually offered - not requested...
(After nominating the driver) -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Thu, 6 Feb 2014 - 04:50
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
You could search for the other cases here and read up on the vague locus Repeated as you appear not to have taken this on board. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
S172's Rookies 1-0 Kent Council PCN's Rookies 1-0 Warwick Rookies 1-0 Birmingham PPC PCN's Rookies 10-0 PPC's |
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