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glasgow_bhoy
post Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 18:11
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Interesting one today.

I wear a company polo shirt for work- its our uniform policy. It has my employers name written prominently on it.

On my way to work a few days ago, in my own time and driving my own car, I got into an argument with someone when I parked my car outside the roll shop. The someone was a local resident who doesn't like people parking outside his house to get their breakfast. Being the reasonable morning person that I am, I explained that he doesn't own the road and that I'd be parking there not just on that morning, but every single day if he didn't stop giving me a headache.

He got mouthy, started calling me various things. I told him a few truths (kept it highly factual) and then went into the shop to pick up my roll and square and a bottle of orange juice. Went back out and he was taking pictures of me, my car and other cars parked legally nearby. The wee guy in the shop has had a world of issues with a few residents in the street- who ironically still buy from his shop daily!

I've since parked outside his house another twice, and he loves to stand at the window watching. The guy has no life. Frankly a waste of oxygen. He parks his car in his driveway and it never moves, and its not as if he's likely to have any friends or family who would want to waste time visiting such a bitter human being.

I've went into work today, and you guessed it- hes contacted my employers via Facebook. They've told him they will investigate.

Now, this all happened in my own time, in my own vehicle and its frankly nothing to do with my employers. They force me to wear their name all over me. They don't have changing facilities where I'm currently based, meaning I'm essentially forced to spend some of my own time wearing their polo shirt.

Can they actually take action against me for anything?

Fortunately the person dealing with it is pretty reasonable and said nothing will happen, but they've asked me to stop winding the guy up. I've made clear its my own time and that I'm just quietly going about my day to day life and that I'll be parking there (unless my work starts making me a better breakfast than my 95p roll), but that I'll only interact with el nobend if he starts it. I know a collegue had a similar complaint put in against them after driving a branded company car infront of someone with a dashcam and sticking the fingers up out the window. He got a warning of some kind at his disciplinary.
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post Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 18:17
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Can they actually take action against me for anything?

For parking your car on the public highway? Instant dismissal...


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post Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 18:19
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Orange juice in Scotland? Don't believe a word of it!
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post Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 18:26
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Can they actually take action against me for anything?

Probably. Bringing the company into disrepute would be the most likely one. It being in your own time isn’t really relevant.


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post Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 18:28
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GB.... park your car where you wish in a legal fashion, make sure the car is legal and, most importantly just ignore the guy even if he attempts to start a conversation with you. The last thing you want is something happening and your employer claiming you were bringing the company in to disrepute. Dunno what the company garb consists of but cant you wear something on top while you are not " actually" working? although its a bit late for this guy as he knows who you work for.
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post Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 18:36
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Everything depends on your employer.

Obviously if you do something to bring your employer into disrepute, even outside of work, then they can take action. In my experience it is very rare because most employers realise the people who complain are nutjobs with too much time on their hands.

But I posted a while back that two blokes jumped out of a company van, in company uniform, and kicked in the wheel of my bike because they thought I was cycling too far out into the road. They must of gone through some sort of disciplinary process because the company made them pay compensation on top of the repair bill.

Where the line is will depend on your employer. In healthcare not a month goes by without someone losing their job for blabbing information about celebrity's health record, or looking up their ex, or some sort of sodwittery when you have audit logs on who accesses what information.
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post Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 19:28
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If you are wearing some sort of uniform that identifies you with a company, your actions can reflect on the company.
Doesn't matter on your own time.
Yes the guy seems to be a halfwit but as long as parking legally and not antagonising the situation or kicking three bells out of the guy, all company can really do is ask you to be a little more circumspect.
I've had bosses who would have driven round there and parked up in same place to see what happened.
Then told the guy to stick it.
And some who would find any excuse to give me a bollocking no matter if at fault or not.
Depends on which type you have.
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post Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 21:34
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 20:28) *
If you are wearing some sort of uniform that identifies you with a company, your actions can reflect on the company. Doesn't matter on your own time. Yes the guy seems to be a halfwit but as long as parking legally and not antagonising the situation or kicking three bells out of the guy, all company can really do is ask you to be a little more circumspect. I've had bosses who would have driven round there and parked up in same place to see what happened. Then told the guy to stick it. And some who would find any excuse to give me a bollocking no matter if at fault or not. Depends on which type you have.


Not going to happen in this day and age of social media.

GB. I would be doing my best to not park there in the future. It might seem trivial now and the person at your firm has said it won.t go further.

But if you get this guys back up further and more people/neighbours get posting on your companies social media pages. It may pass up the chain of command and they might take it more seriously.

Giving a member of Jo-public a mouthful whilst Wearing a shirt emblazoned with your company name, not exactly the smartest thing to do.

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post Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 21:38
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QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 19:26) *
QUOTE (glasgow_bhoy @ Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 19:11) *
Can they actually take action against me for anything?

Probably. Bringing the company into disrepute would be the most likely one. It being in your own time isn’t really relevant.


Exactly this. It's possible, but unlikely in this scenario unless you're being rude / cheeky to him. Truthful or not.

I'm from Scotland as well and the company i work for has very strict rules about how we conduct ourselves. Even posting things on our personal Facebook pages, that are set to private and even if we don't have any way of associating yourself with the company on social media can still lead to dismissal or disciplinary if we're caught posting / discussing something that isn't suitable for the work environment.
Fortunatily they use a common sense approach but we have a very strict social media policy they could enforce if they chose to.

Going forward i'd cover the company logo by some means and completely ignore him. No staring, no responding. Just pretend he isn't there in case he's recording you via some means.


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post Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 21:45
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QUOTE (BaggieBoy @ Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 19:19) *
Orange juice in Scotland? Don't believe a word of it!

Genuine.

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QUOTE (glasgow_bhoy @ Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 19:11) *
Can they actually take action against me for anything?

Probably. Bringing the company into disrepute would be the most likely one. It being in your own time isn’t really relevant.

So the best solution would really be to refuse wearing the branded uniform. Its a relatively new introduction anyway and I'm sure hightlighting this as a reason not to have them has some traction.

QUOTE (StuartBu @ Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 19:28) *
GB.... park your car where you wish in a legal fashion, make sure the car is legal and, most importantly just ignore the guy even if he attempts to start a conversation with you. The last thing you want is something happening and your employer claiming you were bringing the company in to disrepute. Dunno what the company garb consists of but cant you wear something on top while you are not " actually" working? although its a bit late for this guy as he knows who you work for.

Behave... this heats killing me people are lucky I'm not driving around naked this month!

Usually I'd have a hoodie or something on over it because its generally freezing.

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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 20:28) *
If you are wearing some sort of uniform that identifies you with a company, your actions can reflect on the company. Doesn't matter on your own time. Yes the guy seems to be a halfwit but as long as parking legally and not antagonising the situation or kicking three bells out of the guy, all company can really do is ask you to be a little more circumspect. I've had bosses who would have driven round there and parked up in same place to see what happened. Then told the guy to stick it. And some who would find any excuse to give me a bollocking no matter if at fault or not. Depends on which type you have.


Not going to happen in this day and age of social media.

GB. I would be doing my best to not park there in the future. It might seem trivial now and the person at your firm has said it won.t go further.

But if you get this guys back up further and more people/neighbours get posting on your companies social media pages. It may pass up the chain of command and they might take it more seriously.

Giving a member of Jo-public a mouthful whilst Wearing a shirt emblazoned with your company name, not exactly the smartest thing to do.

Unfortunately I need to park there... the roll shop doesn't have anywhere else for parking as its just off a main road. Plus I can't be backing down against this old duffers behaviour- its almost endorsing it. I'd never resort to violence (caveat- I will resort to self defence) and try everything I can not to get drawn into discussions with people before 10am anyway. Point taken about not annoying the other neighbours though- I'll do what I can to avoid them.

My boss is pretty much at the top- so other than HR it won't go any higher.
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post Fri, 6 Jul 2018 - 13:31
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QUOTE (glasgow_bhoy @ Thu, 5 Jul 2018 - 19:11) *
Interesting one today.

I wear a company polo shirt for work- its our uniform policy. It has my employers name written prominently on it.

They force me to wear their name all over me. They don't have changing facilities where I'm currently based, meaning I'm essentially forced to spend some of my own time wearing their polo shirt.


Surely they've got mens' toilets you can nip in and change before you start your shift? Or if it's just a polo shirt, change in the car when you get there?
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Wear this instead.

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Park there when ya like. Just before you open the car door, start the video on your phone but just hold the phone towards the ground, i.e. it's to pick up the sound.

Ignore the pillocks, they ain't worth it.

If ignoring isn't an option, learn to smile at him but keep your mouth shut. Don't give him any ammo.

"and then went into the shop to pick up my roll and square and a bottle of orange juice."

Roll - Check.
OJ - Really? In Scotland? You? smile.gif
Square - ???????
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QUOTE (Broadsman @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 09:32) *
Square - ???????

I believe it's a Scottish breakfast delicacy; basically a square slab of sausage meat.

Obviously the OJ is some exotic import - possibly a substitute for Irn Bru what with the recent CO2 shortages? smile.gif


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post Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 11:01
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QUOTE (Fredd @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 11:40) *
...........Obviously the OJ is some exotic import - possibly a substitute for Irn Bru what with the recent CO2 shortages? smile.gif

Irn Bru is not what it used to be, nay sugar anymore.
Perhaps GB is still hunting for acceptable substitutes ? rolleyes.gif
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post Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 11:41
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:01) *
QUOTE (Fredd @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 11:40) *
...........Obviously the OJ is some exotic import - possibly a substitute for Irn Bru what with the recent CO2 shortages? smile.gif

Irn Bru is not what it used to be, nay sugar anymore.
Perhaps GB is still hunting for acceptable substitutes ? rolleyes.gif


Stop beeting GB up! biggrin.gif
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post Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 22:44
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:01) *
QUOTE (Fredd @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 11:40) *
...........Obviously the OJ is some exotic import - possibly a substitute for Irn Bru what with the recent CO2 shortages? smile.gif

Irn Bru is not what it used to be, nay sugar anymore.
Perhaps GB is still hunting for acceptable substitutes ? rolleyes.gif

I stopped drinking it a few years ago after mixing it with too much vodka and spending two days in bed in Malia in the blistering heat.

Tried the new stuff but its not the same. No sugar and less fizz. I'll take an apple juice or a double shot caramel latte over it anyday.

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QUOTE (Steve_999 @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:41) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:01) *
QUOTE (Fredd @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 11:40) *
...........Obviously the OJ is some exotic import - possibly a substitute for Irn Bru what with the recent CO2 shortages? smile.gif

Irn Bru is not what it used to be, nay sugar anymore.
Perhaps GB is still hunting for acceptable substitutes ? rolleyes.gif


Stop beeting GB up! biggrin.gif

Would he prefer the cane?
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QUOTE (StuartBu @ Sun, 8 Jul 2018 - 01:49) *
QUOTE (Steve_999 @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:41) *


Stop beeting GB up! biggrin.gif

Would he prefer the cane?


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QUOTE (Steve_999 @ Sun, 8 Jul 2018 - 10:15) *
QUOTE (StuartBu @ Sun, 8 Jul 2018 - 01:49) *
QUOTE (Steve_999 @ Sat, 7 Jul 2018 - 12:41) *


Stop beeting GB up! biggrin.gif

Would he prefer the cane?


laughing4.gif

Not from any of you lot anyway wink.gif ninja.gif ninja.gif
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